27mm Festool hose connectors

[Nvcraftsman]

Hi Fog
I have 2-27mm hoses that I would like to couple together. I don't see any connectors that allow me to do that. I'm sure there is I am somewhat new to Festool, suggestions please. Thank You ???

 

[erock]

Part no.  493 047

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/8292

works with the ends that go into the ct vacs.  CT26 and up have the straight end.  The CTmini and midi have the 90* ends.

Eric

 

[tbellemare]

As Eric pointed out, that connector connects the 50mm ends, like the dust extractor end of the hose.

If you want to connect two 27mm hoses, you will need to take the rubber, tool end off the hose closest to the CT and replace it with another of the "Rotating, Antistatic Hose Connectors", 452892. That is the same as the CT end of any 27mm hose.

The sleeve Eric mentioned will join the two 50mm ends and maintain the antistatic circuit. It will also connect a 27mm to a 36mm or 50mm, etc...

Tom

 

[Nvcraftsman]

Part no.  493 047

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/8292

works with the ends that go into the ct vacs.  CT26 and up have the straight end.  The CTmini and midi have the 90* ends.

Eric

I have a Ct26 it's a shame I have to change one end of one of the hoses. I was hoping their was some kind of adapter that you used to join the two. I don't need both lengths all the time. I have one in a boom over my ct26 and there are times I need the extra length to clean up other parts of my shop. Thanks for the info

 

[wow]

Redneck solution = a short piece of radiator hose and some clamps?

 

[alecphoenix]

I just bought the TS-55 track saw and I can't afford/unwilling to spend a gazillion dollars on Festool's dust extraction 27 mm hose. Especially since I already have the Rigid 1 1/4" car cleaning hose http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Premium-Car-Cleaning-Kit-VT2534/100638355 and a Rigid Dry Vac.
It seems all these companies deliberately make fittings and connectors that do NOT connect with other brands. In fact, dare I say, I bet these companies all have departments dedicated to making any attempt at this as nightmarish as possible.
I finally ordered the Fein 921072K13 Step Adaptor from Amazon for 5 bucks. We'll see how that goes.
In the meantime I experimented with a 1-1-2-in-x-1-1-4 rubber/PVC coupling and the smaller side fits very snug over the Festool dust port.  http://www.homedepot.com/p/Fernco-1-1-2-in-x-1-1-4-in-DWV-Flexible-PVC-Coupling-P1056-150-125/100044154
Since 27 mm = 1 1/16", I suppose it is 3/16 shy of being a perfect fit but that is what clamp is for...

....work in progress...let you know when it is all figured out...

 

[AlexThePalex]

It seems all these companies deliberately make fittings and connectors that do NOT connect with other brands. In fact, dare I say, I bet these companies all have departments dedicated to making any attempt at this as nightmarish as possible.

You'd lose that bet. Festool's 27 mm, 36 mm and their vac end connectors are a standard size in Europe.

The way you have to connect two of their hoses is cumbersome though, simply stupid actually. The fact that you have to replace a coupling and get another extra part is just stupid. Whenever I have to connect two hoses I take the couplings off and just tape them together. Luckily I don't need this often.
 

 

[alecphoenix]

Alex - you say that I would "lose that bet" and then proceed to agree with me... [wink]
You even agree that Festool's proprietary hoses don't even connect with each other without tape. How insane is that. 2 300 dollar hoses connected together with Gorilla tape. .
The fact remains, that in the USA, hose connections between Festool, Rigid, Shop Vac, Bosch, Dewalt, CT etc remains a deliberately controlled nightmare.
Perhaps some enterprising crowd funded start-up can provide a loudly advertised " Festool to Dewalt Dust Extraction Adaptor" or "Rigid to Festool Dry Vac Connector". If you do a google search on those phrases you come up with squat. Nightmarish squat. Is it against the law to make these adaptors? Thats what it feels like. Even worse than the Microsoft vs Apple connector nonsense used to be like. At least in the computer world there is some standardization w USB 3.0. But even so, have you noticedApple always comes out with some new adaptor size that is incompatible with just about everything for about a year or so?
Does anyone have a 3-D printer that could knock out some of these adaptors??
Not only is this deliberate non-standarization practice nightmarish for homo sapiens sapiens, it is also bad for the environment. All these landfills filling up with parts that don't fit anything.
Nightmare.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Alex - you say that I would "lose that bet" and then proceed to agree with me... [wink]

Well, I guess that if you make up your own reality I agree with you. [smile] You said "proprietary hoses that don't connect to other brands". Over here they do, I can put a Festool hose in a Bosch or Makita vac without problems and connect the Festool hose to my DeWalt saw and router.

I guess for America it is more problematic, but that's because European and American standards are different. The world trade is slowly becomming more unified, but we're certainly not there yet. Complaining about it is fine, that will only expediate the process, but don't expect it to happen overnight.

You even agree that Festool's proprietary hoses don't even connect with each other without tape. How insane is that. 2 300 dollar hoses connected together with Gorilla tape. .

I don't agree with that either. I said it is my personal solution. And that's because I don't agree with Festool's solution where you have to replace one connector from a hose and then add a second piece. That solution is indeed rather dumb.

The smart thing to do would be to make one single adapter to connect two hoses, no removing and replacing anything, just plug and play.

Not only is this deliberate non-standarization practice nightmarish for homo sapiens sapiens, it is also bad for the environment. All these landfills filling up with parts that don't fit anything.

Deliberate non-standarization is indeed bad, that I most certainly agree with you and many companies are guilty of that, Festool also. But European products not playing well with American products is in large part due to the fact that both markets were separated for a very long time and both developed their own, different standards.

 

[Cheese]

You said "proprietary hoses that don't connect to other brands". Over here they do, I can put a Festool hose in a Bosch or Makita vac without problems and connect the Festool hose to my DeWalt saw and router.

[member=55397]alecphoenix[/member]
Just to highlight what Alex said, here's a picture of a Festool hose on a Fein vacuum. The US manufacturers seem to be larger abusers of standardization than the Europeans.

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[travisj]

Alecphoenix, This should work.

http://www.rockler.com/dust-right-universal-small-port-hose-kit

If you google it, there were several video reviews of this set.  One of which involved some Festool tools.

I am editing this because I actually looked at the pictures on the link.  Rockler shows it being hooked to a Festool router.

 

[alecphoenix]

Fein 921072K13 Step Adaptor did the trick.
Ty- travisj - that Rockler kit looks great.

 

[Hugh]

On the original issue, you could make a short adapter.  Get a short length of 36mm hose, 36mm connector on one end, 50mm on the other and then use the 50-50 mm connector.  You can then join and disconnect the two 27 mm hoses at will without having to keep swapping one of the ends.

As for standardisation of hose sizes I have a cheep DIY vac I had to make an adapter for to connect to my Festools.  Then one day I reailised the 50mm end of my CTL SYS fitted in the vacume.  Now its got its own 36mm hose that cost more then it did...