A nice juicy Festool rumor...

Dan Clark

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Last week, I had a conversation with a Festool rep (NOT someone on this forum) who hinted that Festool was coming out with somewhere between 12 and 18 new products in 2008.  :o  That's interesting news, but here's where it gets better...  It may include the CMS!!!   

When I started pushing him for details, he said, "I can't say."  So I said, "Well let me ask you this, is the CMS one of the tools?"  He SAID "I can't say!"  But his head was nodding "Yes"!!!    ;D 

Life could get very interesting around here.

Regards,

Dan.
 
  Dan, I'm a little confused (normal)  You say CMS . I thought Festool was coming out wiyh a SCMS. Are there going to be both?
  Gary K.
 
Llap Goch said:
A crafty shufti of my copy of HDFDOA (Herr Doktor Festools Dictionary Of Anacronyms) reveals that CMS is not short for Compound Mitre Saw.

In a cunning Teutonic plan to confuse the bewildered (works everytime on me) CMS is Festoolese for Compact Module System.

Click on this to reveal eine kleine multifunktion Geschnitt Tafel
http://www.festool.co.uk/artikel/artikel_weiterleiten.cfm?id=256

Pat
I hope that it is the Compact Module System that Festool start to sell in North America, but I expect that it is only the mitre saw that they are considering.  I would almost certainly purchase some or all of the former but am not very interested in the later.
 
I'd like to see Festool come out with their version of the contractors table saw.  The CMS looks neat but I'd probably pass.  A feature laden, dust suckin', black and green table saw would be sweet.
 
Victor,

'European gays have these tools for decades. '

Umm, what about straight Europeans.  I didn't think festool discriminates.

'Festool USA got UL approval for Mahogany, Pine and Red Oak. Still pending UL approval for White Oak, Cherry and Basswood. UL denied approval for balsa (too light) and Iron wood (too heavy).  Also were prohibited by UL dowels shorter than 5/8" (13mm) and longer than 3" (75mm)'

That's the funniest thing thing I've read in weeks.

Brent
 
"European gays have these tools for decades."

Please do not do this when one is imbibing a small glass of Lagavulin.

Not only is it wasteful of one of Gods most precious liquids but I find it difficult to suck it out from my keyboard. ;D

 
Or Absinthe for that matter...  the green fairy and electronics just don't mix well. ;D ;D
 
Curious--

I noticed that while other PDF versions of the Festool catalog say 2007-2008. The US version just says 2007. I thought this might indicate that 2008 would be the year of availability.

The rumor isn't juicy to me. It just confirms that I may not get a Kapex at all. Too bad. They design an intriguing product for which I'm willing to spend too much money sight unseen, but I will probably need a new CMS before they make it available.  A loss for Festool, a loss for me. :'(  But it is, regrettably, what I expected.

On the other hand, I probably won't be able to justify the price anyway.
So I guess it's good, I'll be saving money. :-\

Fred
 
Hi.

"CMS" = Compact Module System.  And yes, I'm referring to selling it here in the good old U.S. of "Not Available".  My source may have included the Kapex (I'm not sure). 

He also said emphatically that Festool did NOT discriminate between gay and straight people!  They want to sell bunches of good stuff to Festool addicts here in the US regardless of race, creed, color, or sexual orientation.    ;D

Regards,

Dan.
 
Brent b said:
...
'Festool USA got UL approval for Mahogany, Pine and Red Oak. Still pending UL approval for White Oak, Cherry and Basswood. UL denied approval for balsa (too light) and Iron wood (too heavy).  Also were prohibited by UL dowels shorter than 5/8" (13mm) and longer than 3" (75mm)'
...
Thanks for the humour!  I got a big laugh out of it!
 
That's a little better, thanks Brent. I'm looking farward to the CMS making it here to US next year (if it dose).
 
I like the UK site better they have been taking lessons from our very own John Lucas ;D

Ric
 
Everyone,
I've received several off-line messages from members asking if I know anything about this rumor.

I checked with Festool USA on this and want to report back on the facts:
- There are no plans to introduce anywhere near 15-18 new tools in the US market in 2008.  Of course, Festool
  wants to introduce new tools.  However, at this time they cannot be certain which ones will be approved.
- There are no current plans to introduce a CMS to the American market in 2008.  There is a slight possibility
  that only the router table portion of the CMS may be introduced in 2008.  However, this is contingent on UL
  approval.
- As a general principle, Festool cannot predict this far in advance which tools will be introduced.  This has to do
  with several factors, including the UL-approval process.
- Having a tool introduced in Europe gives no indication of when it will be ready for the US market.

Thanks,
Matthew
 
Matthew Schenker said:
...
- There are no current plans to introduce a CMS to the American market in 2008. 
...
I am dissapointed :( , but certainly not surprised. 

I wonder if Hafele Canada might import it for me.  I am going to check and will report back.
 
Matthew Schenker said:
- There are no current plans to introduce a CMS to the American market in 2008.  There is a slight possibility
   that only the router table portion of the CMS may be introduced in 2008.  However, this is contingent on UL
   approval.

In my opinion, introducing just the router table portion would be a very strange move. The one major plus of the thing is that it is part of the CMS system.  By itself, it's not an exceptionally good router table insert. The height adjustment is under the table, and using those long bolts to set the fence is cumbersome. Expecially since the knob of one of the bolts tends to jam against the housing (note that I have a older version of the thing, this may have been fixed in the newer versions). Whenever possible, I tend to use a scrap piece of wood as a fence instead of the Festool one. I have no hands-on experience with any other router tables, but from what I've seen on internet, there are many better ones available in the US.

Frans
 
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