a use for worn out stickfix sanding pads

dirtydeeds

dirtydeeds

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i do a lot of rehanging doors, so i end up using existing hinge pockets in the frames and linings installed by so so carpenters and diyers

that means packing the pockets, worn out stickfix pads cost nothing

easy to cut with a stanley and they stick happily to the bare timber, no more cardboard falling out before you get the first screw in
 
You got me dd,
I am curious to know how you use a stickfix pad to fill a hinge pocket when rehanging a door.  that is a new one on me, even tho i have hung new doors on new frames, old doors on new frames, new doors on old frames, old doors on old frames.  I have used cardboard as filler and leveer as well as veneer strips or even hinges with thicker plates.

I'm not a carpenter or cabinetmaker, but have been around construction almost all of my life. I thought i had seen it all.  i have turned your idea over in my head, looked at my old stickfix pads, and even the stickfix sanding sheets, but I cannot see the possitive value to using either.  What am I missing.

thanks for enlightenment
Tinker

 
im using it in exactly the same way as you use cardboard, it just happens to be easier than cardboard

the value is that if you put the furry side against the timber in the too deep hinge pocket it stays there, cardboard falls out all too easily

if the hinge pocket is so deep it needs veneer strips i repair the hinge pocket first

the other solution of hinges with thicker leaves (for a couple of hinges here and there) sticks out like a sore thumb and ive usually agreed the hinge type in advance with the cleints

if its a fire door hinge you simply cant do such a thing
 
dirtydeeds said:
that means packing the pockets, worn out stickfix pads cost nothing
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dd, Are we talking about the same items?  Having discovered from earlier posts that your original language may not have been English (My wife is from Germany and still gets things a little mixed up >>> including me  ???) 

Are you talking about "StickFix Abraisive Sheets". (the sand paper sheets)  Not trying to be sticky here.  I just can't understand use of the pads for fixing hinges.

Years ago, as I was learning the mason trade, i had the good fortune to work for a short time with a wonderful German craftsman.  I would start to do a project of some sort and he would observe/correct me with, "Vell, dat vay vas alriiht, budt, dis vay vudda vas bedter"  he could really murder the English language, but i really loved working and learning from him.  He was one of the finest of craftsmen I ever had the good fortune to work with.
Tinker
 
tinker ive one language i write english the way i speak it.

eli says i cant spell and dont add much punctuation and rarely use capital letters. hes right

use your sentance remove the word "cardboard" and replace it with "(worn out) stickfix abrasive sanding pads (cut to size with a stanley knife)"

we are doing the same job in the same way with a different product

for absolute exactness i "fix" hinges with screws same as you, its ok we live on the same planet

paraphrasing as your german friend

"cardboard is alright as a packer but stickfix abrasive sanding pads are easier"

i suspect one of two things

one  you wont understand this post any more than anything else ive written

two  you fully understand me. and ive fallen for you're wind up hook line and sinker
 
dirtydeeds said:
use your sentance remove the word "cardboard" and replace it with "(worn out) stickfix abrasive sanding pads (cut to size with a stanley knife)"

we are doing the same job in the same way with a different product

for absolute exactness i "fix" hinges with screws same as you, its ok we live on the same planet

paraphrasing as your german friend

"cardboard is alright as a packer but stickfix abrasive sanding pads are easier"
u fully understand me. and ive fallen for you're wind up hook line and sinker
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I must admit that I'm also having a problem with visualising how you use a Stickfix sanding pad as a shim for a door hinge, in lieu of a bit of cardboard.  ???

Here's a Stickfix Sanding pad (Festool 6" StickFix soft sanding pad, Order No 486381)...

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...so could you explain exactly how you convert it to a shim for a hinge?

Forrest

 
its clear that i have a problem getting my ideas understood because i tend use words i use on site, which is effectivly british site slang (site =  jobsite)

i guess the problem is if i was to explain everything in exact detail to an english carpenter id get my head knocked off for being patronising

its clear i need to use more exact terms or explain things a bit better

note to self........ "must try harder"
 
dirtydeeds said:
its clear that i have a problem getting my ideas understood
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Thanks for the clarification!

i tend use words i use on site, which is effectivly british site slang (site =  jobsite)

its clear the language gets sea sick when it crosses the atlantic
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And also Hadrian's Wall!  ;D

Forrest

 
hadrians wall, in parts of scotland id be called a joiner not a carpenter

here the terms carpenter and joiner mean different trades
 
The same in Australia. Which is weird for me. I've got a larger skillset than a chippy, but don't really consider myself a joiner, having never done an apprenticeship. So I've learned to just agree I'm a chippy. They don't really say joiner in the US, mostly a joiner's work would be that of a Finish Carpenter.
 
an old time apprentiship would have given you time in both trades and at the end of which you became a master carpenter.

norm abraham is a modern version of this type of carpenter, he does NYW and this old house. if its wood he does it

a joiner is the shortened form of "bench joiner", working in a workshop

a carpenter works on site. then come distinctions first fix and second fix

first fix is framing, second fix is trim carpentry / finish carpentry- architrave skirting (casing and baseboard) doors etc

chippy is a very loose site term it either denotes a first fix guy or a low quality second fixer

as eli says its getting to the stage that contractors think in terms that a first fix guy cant do second fix or bench joinery

they arnt wrong to think this way, i frequently meet guys who have limited skill sets
 
You know what? That sheds a bit more light on it for me. On the assumption that saying I'm a chippy will put me in a market I don't want to be in, I'm going to go back to calling myself a Finish Carpenter, and not settle for chippy. There isn't anything wrong with the job, it just isn't where I want to be. I spent plenty of time as a framer already.

On a related cultural side note, I heard a way funny description of a high end job the other day. The guy said, "It was nice, I mean like curl mo (makes a gesture with both hands as if he's twirling the ends of his mustache)". I must have laughed ten minutes.
 
i went self employed with the specific intention of geting more variety, id got pidgeon holed

just calling myself a finish carpenter or renovation carpenter (to the right clients) has done just that

these terms arnt well known in the uk, which helps. because they dont know, they ask what sort of work i do

result......... im no longer seen as a bulk standard carpenter so i get jobs like that cabinet thing i posted and ive got that hardwood floor repair job and i restore box sash windows (vertical hung sashes hung on cord and weights)

i eventually priced it on a labour rate + sundries, they buy the hardwood 
 
DD,

I, for one, understood what you wre using for a shim from the get go. I can only imagine that you needed something right off one day and, looking around for something suitable, you grabbed a worn out disk.

Eli,

Regardless of what you call yourself down there I suppose you have been referred to as a Seppo, eh?
 
Most people call you Yank to your face, seppo* if you aren't facing them. My wife didn't think naming my construction business "Seppo's" was a good idea, but I thought it showed I had a sense of humor (humour). I haven't done so.

*Seppo is short for 'septic tank', which of course rhymes with yank.
 
gregmann

exactly

its a pity the benefit of the velcro backing got bogged down in translation
 
dirtydeeds said:
chippy is a very loose site term it either denotes a first fix guy or a low quality second fixer
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Chippies?  We got chippies!

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Hopi Chipmunk

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Eastern(?) Chipmunk

 
Dirtydeeds,
              I feel for you mate, I come across the language barrier every day as a Brit living in the States ( I have been here 8 yrs and its still happening ). All that separates the U.S.A from the U.k is the language... ;D

Colin.
 
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