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From time to time, members experience issues with their Festool products.  This section of the forum is provided as a place to post about these issues in a way that offers constructive criticism or seeks advice in resolving a problem.  We have a group of very knowledgeable members who can offer assistance.  Please remember that the Festool service department is also available to help diagnose, troubleshoot and remedy issues by phone toll free at 888-337-8600.

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Shane
 
Hi, I have been on the fence about purchasing Festool ts75 package with ctmidi.  After discovering this site , I am now aware of the the problems with these and other Festool tools.  The sales info is good and certainly has got me interested but I guess that what appears too good to be true is just that, too good to be true. Expensive should usually equate to high quality.  I have been woodworking professionally for 30 plus years don't need to waste money on showey tools that may or may not work. Replies invited.  John
 
Problems with Festool tools are the exception and not the norm.  If there were so many problems would they give you a 3 year warranty?  What should be of more concern is how the company responds to problems.  I challenge you to find someone who has been dissatisfied with customer service from Festool. Sure you may find 1 or 2 examples, can't please everyone, but the vast majority of complaints are handled timely and professionally.  I suggest you pick up the 75 and midi, you can try it out for 30 days and if you don't see the value then you can still return it.  Waste of money, hardly, investment, you bet.  Just getting the saw and vac you'll only begin to realize the value of the tools as a system.  I use to think the same as you, $400-$500 for a circ saw, no way. That was 1/2 dozen or so tools ago.  Once you USE them vs looking for flaws you'll be hooked.
 
gumwood said:
Hi, I have been on the fence about purchasing Festool ts75 package with ctmidi.  After discovering this site , I am now aware of the the problems with these and other Festool tools.  The sales info is good and certainly has got me interested but I guess that what appears too good to be true is just that, too good to be true. Expensive should usually equate to high quality.  I have been woodworking professionally for 30 plus years don't need to waste money on showey tools that may or may not work. Replies invited.   John

30 days of non question asked policy and three years guarantee is more than you can ask from any tool manufacturer.

95% of the members  here are DIY's. What they may see as a  tool problem, 90% comes from not reading the manuals.

With that in mind and the toll free number, theyre is no risk taking the plunge.

kosta
 
John, welcome to the forum.  I think after reading some of the posts on here and hearing from other members that one thing that is definitely different with Festool is that we go the extra mile to correct issues that customers have with their tools.  Any product has the potential of having a problem.  The difference between an average company and an extraordinary company is the level of customer service.  I have personally worked with many of our customers to help resolve issues quickly and to their complete satisfaction, including those here on the forum.
 
Shane Holland said:
John, welcome to the forum.  I think after reading some of the posts on here and hearing from other members that one thing that is definitely different with Festool is that we go the extra mile to correct issues that customers have with their tools.  Any product has the potential of having a problem.  The difference between an average company and an extraordinary company is the level of customer service.  I have personally worked with many of our customers to help resolve issues quickly and to their complete satisfaction, including those here on the forum.


Amen!  There has been a couple of times that I have been the beneficiary of Festool's excellent customer service.  They have never failed to meet my expectations, quite often they have exceeded them.  I know of no other company that I trust explicitly to do the right thing for the customer.
 
John,

First off, welcome to the Forum.  This forum is uniquely open to comments from the membership about the quality of Festools and serves as a knowledge base for members and non members alike.  I have been a professional woodworker since 1983.  I have personally had problems with other tools of other brands.  I have had 2 issues with Festools in 5 years.  Both were minor and handled expeditiously under the warranty program to my complete satisfaction. I and many of the others here who have visited Festool USA's headquarters in Indianapolis have posted about how few tools were there for service, especially when it is taken into account that there is a centralized repair center for the US unlike other manufacturers that make you take your tools to local or regional  repair centers / shops.

As others have said, there can be a learning curve in the use of the various tools and sometimes this translates into comments about quality issues.  We here can try to help out with those.  Additionally, Festool has application trainers, who often times can offer advice about specific tools and applications.  The warranty program can help if there are issues with the tools themselves.  Purchasers have a thirty day window to put the tools thru the paces in their own work environment and work flow to see if the tool is right for them, and if not, return it within that period.  

You may find this quote informative.  I quoted it in its entirety for accuracy purposes.  On March 30, 2008, Christian O. posted this information in a thread named Is it Sacrilegious to Use Festools on Construction Sites?

"I couldn't help to chime in here. Very interesting question!

It looks like Festool has a different image here in the US than it has in Europe.

When I was a kid, I was working every summer in a company that did rough carpentry. Most of the tools they had were Festool tools (back then Festo). Helmut, the owner of the company, always said he buys Festool because they are tough and outlast all other tools. They were rough on the tools.

Every time I see somebody in Germany working with a Festool product, I ask them why they bought Festool. In most cases I am told "because they last, they are tough, they get the job done".

Many of our customers in the US seem to see Festool products as "delicate, high precision instruments". For them, Festool tools are the tools you "only use for fine finish work". And in a lot of companies only "the boss" is supposed to use "his Festools". When the "boss has made that one critical cut on that expensive mahagony door", the tool is wiped off and goes back into the Systainer. The crew keeps working with "the other tools".

I understand that everybody has to decide for him-/herself, what a Festool tools is being used for. From a product standpoint, I can say this: The tools are made to withstand long and heavy use, in the shop and on jobsites. They are precise, yes, but they are also tough.

If you think a Festool product makes you work faster, easier and smarter, take your Festool for construction work or other heavy duty applications. The tool might not last as long as the one that lives most of the time in its Systainer. But the time you save will pay in most cases easily for the replacement tool.  

Bottom line: When you are asking yourself if you should use Festool for construction work, the only deciding factor should be if the job gets done faster and easier with Festool and if it makes sense to use Festool for the job (I wouldn't use the TS55 to rough cut 2x4s). If yes, use Festool. On the other hand, the question if the tool will last should not be a deciding factor, because the tools are designed to last. It takes Festool about two years of testing before the market introduction of a new tool, and Festool has more rigorous tests than other tool manufacturers. They are also designed to be repaired very easily and with minimal cost (example: almost all parts are available as a single part, you don't have to pay for spare part groups).

I hope this didn't sound too much like a marketing rant. It was not my intention. It is just interesting for me to see how different the image of Festool is in the US compared to Europe.

Thanks.

Christian"


Hope that this helps.

Peter

 
Look at it this way, when a Festool breaks - its news and merits discussion.  I'm never really surprised when a PC or a DeWally breaks (usually view it as an opportunity for a new Festool).  The very few breakages I have had with Festool have been clearly my fault (but Festool fixed it for free anyhow). 

Over the years I have bought several Festools and use them as the tool of first choice.  There was one tool I seemed never to pick up - worked fine, just didn't fit my personal working style.  I sold it on craigslist for more than I paid for it.

So, don't let the board's fascination with Festool problems give you the wrong idea.  The quality is definitely there.
 
gumwood said:
....I have been woodworking professionally for 30 plus years don't need to waste money on showey tools that may or may not work....

If you have been involved in woodworking 30+ years, then you are certainly aware that at some point in time a tool is going to malfunction or need attention.  No matter the cost or quality, wear & tear will eventually take a toll.  Festool stands behind their products like no other company I've ever dealt with.  I know if/when one of my Festools has an issue that they will bend over backwards to correct the problem.

I know of no other tool company, or any company for that matter, that openly talks via a web forum about issues with their product(s).  Festool does not hide anything, I find this honesty refreshing.  I also appreciate Festool's never ending customer support, it gives me piece of mind about using their products.

Mike
 
I'm a hobby-woodworker. My tools don't have to do a hard job, they must feel to be on a sort of holiday-trip. I use Festool for almost 5 years and they are still the best and most precise tools I ever had. They make up for my lack of woodworking ability.
The only issue I ever had with a Festool was my own fault. I tried to insert a thumbscrew of a parallelguide of a CMS-table from the wrong side. I thought the screw was too short because it did not reached the nut. After a lot of tries, I read the f@#$%^ manual and saw my mistake.
Support from the sellers, in Holland and the USA, are far above average, also the best I ever experienced.

So for me, I'm a certified Festoholic
 
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