Abrasives assortment for workshop

[Javib]

Hi, I like to invest in a good set of abrasives for my ro150, etc150 and the imminent ro90 that I will purchase in the coming weeks. I will use them for general woodworking with ply, softwoods and hardwoods and occasional refurbishment of painted timber. I have been thinking in the following:

- one granat set d150 with Systainer  p60 to p220 120pcs
- one granat set ro90 with Systainer  p60 to p220 160pcs
- 10pcs Rubin 2 p40 for d150, d90 and 93 for heavy stripping with both rotex so 30pcs in total
-  10pcs platin p1000 for d150 for very fine finishing with the etc150

This would set me back around €250, do you think something like this would cover most of the uses? Are the Systainers useful for sorting out abrasives? Would they have additional space for the ones that I’m purchasing separately?

Any other recommended abrasive that would be nice to have? Sometimes I use some osmo hard oil wax, I think I saw somewhere a festool abrasive specific for oil application?

Many thanks!!

 

[Coen]

Rubin 2 is mainly for bare wood. I personally don't buy it anymore, I just use Granat. But the Granat I run out off... I refill with Granat Net.

You might look into Saphir as well

 

[Javib]

Rubin 2 is mainly for bare wood. I personally don't buy it anymore, I just use Granat. But the Granat I run out off... I refill with Granat Net.

You might look into Saphir as well

Thanks, so Saphir would work better for paint removal in timber furniture restoration? Which grits would you recommend? What would be the advantages of granat net vs granat? I have only used granat with my ro150

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[Coen]

Rubin 2 is mainly for bare wood. I personally don't buy it anymore, I just use Granat. But the Granat I run out off... I refill with Granat Net.

You might look into Saphir as well

Thanks, so Saphir would work better for paint removal in timber furniture restoration? Which grits would you recommend? What would be the advantages of granat net vs granat? I have only used granat with my ro150

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Well I doubt there is that much paint on furniture.

Net abrasives have better dust extraction and less tearing problems.

 

[smorgasbord]

Also, you should think about which grits to use - you don't need to use every single grit.
The rule of thumb I was taught is that the next grit should be about 50% higher than the previous grit, so these are both valid:

40-60-80-120-180-240-320
50-75-100-150-220-320

Which means if you have 120 & 180 you don't need 150, for instance. Or 150 & 220 you don't need 180, etc.

 

[luvmytoolz]

I'll second the net mesh comments, I barely use anything else now, the net discs are so much better I find. I keep an assortment of Mirka Abranet Ace, Granat Net, and 3M Cubitron 2 to cover anything I do.

I also keep a good stock of the range of Mirka Abralon for polishing, along with some Festool Vlies for buffing/polishing.

 

[wmarazita]

Also, you should think about which grits to use - you don't need to use every single grit.
The rule of thumb I was taught is that the next grit should be about 50% higher than the previous grit, so these are both valid:

40-60-80-120-180-240-320
50-75-100-150-220-320

Which means if you have 120 & 180 you don't need 150, for instance. Or 150 & 220 you don't need 180, etc.

I have found the mesh type abrasives are pretty much superior in every way to the older, paper type abrasives.
And Smorgasbord has really good advice here. I keep 80-120-180-240 now. It has made my life so much easier.
I pretty much only use solid woods, so not sure if this is good advice for plywood.

 

[Javib]

Also, you should think about which grits to use - you don't need to use every single grit.
The rule of thumb I was taught is that the next grit should be about 50% higher than the previous grit, so these are both valid:

40-60-80-120-180-240-320
50-75-100-150-220-320

Which means if you have 120 & 180 you don't need 150, for instance. Or 150 & 220 you don't need 180, etc.

I have found the mesh type abrasives are pretty much superior in every way to the older, paper type abrasives.
And Smorgasbord has really good advice here. I keep 80-120-180-240 now. It has made my life so much easier.
I pretty much only use solid woods, so not sure if this is good advice for plywood.

Thanks, I am checking granat net now but I am only able to find it in packages of 50 pcs so it gets really expensive to get 4 - 5 different grits for all my three formats d150, d90 and 93. Is there any set of granat net covering most standard grits or smaller packages of 10 or 20 pcs? Many thanks!

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[Cheese]

Thanks, I am checking granat net now but I am only able to find it in packages of 50 pcs so it gets really expensive to get 4 - 5 different grits for all my three formats d150, d90 and 93. Is there any set of granat net covering most standard grits or smaller packages of 10 or 20 pcs? Many thanks!

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Granat net is available for the 150mm sanders, however is is not available for the RO 90 or DX 93. For that you would need to choose either Granat paper or Rubin 2.

For small quantities of sand paper, Tool Nirvana allows you to mix & match. Here's Granat net, Granat paper and Rubin 2.
https://www.toolnirvana.com/collect...-custom-abrasive-assortments-granat-net-50pcs
https://www.toolnirvana.com/collect...r-50-custom-abrasive-assortments-granat-50pcs
https://www.toolnirvana.com/collect...u-50-custom-abrasive-assortments-rubin2-50pcs

 

[Peter Kelly]

If you’re located on the Iberian Peninsula you might look into Indasa abrasives, I’d imagine they’re a lot more competitively priced. They’ve got mesh lines and paper backed discs punched specifically for Festool hole patterns.
https://www.indasa-abrasives.com/global/en/catalogue/abrasives

 

[ear3]

[member=70981]Javib[/member] Granat is a much better all around option that beats Rubin even for bare wood.  If you don't have anything after 220, not sure how useful the Platin will be.  I would try to get some coverage at the upper ranges as well from 320 to 800 if you plan on getting the most out of the Platin pad.  I actually prefer to go all the way up the ladder with Granat, ending with 800/1200/1500 and then switch to the 2000 platin when I'm trying to get a high gloss/mirror finish like this (just has a buffed wax finish on top of the sanded surface):

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[Javib]

Thanks [member=44099]Cheese[/member], much easier then, will stick with Granat for the RO90 and try to find Granat net for the d150. Not sure if there is reseller in Europe which allows to mix and match like Toolnirvana

Thanks [member=15972]Peter Kelly[/member], yes, I am based in Spain so Indus may be a great alternative. Do you have experience with their products, are they comparable to Granat and Granat net? Pricewise seems slightly cheaper so it is worth to check them!

Thanks [member=37411]ear3[/member], will stick with just Granat and Granat net and get 2000 Platin for testing. Really great finish in those pics!

 

[Peter Kelly]

[member=70981]Javib[/member] In the US, Indsa 125mm and 150mm discs are priced at about 1/2 the cost of the Festool version so it's primarily what I've been using for years now. Rhynogrip White abrasive is comparable to Mirka Basecuthttps://www.indasa-abrasives.com/global/en/catalogue/abrasives/rhynogrip-white-line

 

[Javib]

[member=70981]Javib[/member] In the US, Indsa 125mm and 150mm discs are priced at about 1/2 the cost of the Festool version so it's primarily what I've been using for years now. Rhynogrip White abrasive is comparable to Mirka Basecuthttps://www.indasa-abrasives.com/global/en/catalogue/abrasives/rhynogrip-white-line

Many thanks, will ask around to check if there are any local retailers. Do you know which one is the mesh one Festool compatible? Thanks again!

 

[Peter Kelly]

They should be fine with an interface pad or pad protector. I think the Indasa mesh discs are meant for automotive work so they'd be more similar to Mirka Autonet abrasives. If you're going with mesh discs, 3M Cubitron II seem to be the best ones around.