advice on a bigger hose for a CTL 26.

[Mauri Motti]

The 27 mm hose I have does the job just fine with my Ts 55, Carvex and Ro 90 but we all know that it could do a better job when using the OF 1400. It's okish but it could be better. I know several of you have recommended the 36 mm. Often when vacuuming the floor after a job is done my 27mm hose blocks and I then have to mess around to find where in the hose it got stuck. I wonder if I should maybe get the 50 mm.. though I assume the 50 is likely to be unhandy in use with the OF 1400 and I would like to have a hose that I can use vacuuming and in combination with the OF for better dust collection. Hoped someone here has used the 50 with the OF 1400 and can give me some advice. 

So 36 or 50? 

And as I would like the hoses to be connectable I likely get either the 27/ 36 or 50 DAG-AS…. Right?

Comments on your experience please!

Kind regards, Mauri

 

[Mauri Motti]

And oh yeah, an aftermarket option I could consider as well!  :

 

[Ken Nagrod]

A 50mm hose hooked to the router is just ridiculous.  Overkill and not necessary.  Go with the 36mm.  More stationary type power tools, yes, the 50mm or with the large floor cleaning set.

 

[Mauri Motti]

Thanks for your reply Ken. Yeah, I figured a 50mm would be too much as I want to use it with the OF 1400 too. But a FOG expertise has never done me any bad  [smile]. And just to make sure, if I get a RM D36/27-AS (Nr. 498528) Then I could connect the 27 and 36mm hoses together?

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I have thought of getting a 7 meter 36mm hose but I do think that most of the time the length is more of a bother then a help but having the option to extend them will certainly be useful from time to time.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Sorry I don't know about the part you were showing, but I will tell you this.  If you put the 27mm hose on the router and attach that to the 36mm hose, you'll only have the suction available that the 27mm hose is capable of and you'll only be able to move the volume of air and dust that the 27mm hose is capable of.  Rules of air velocity.  You have to go by the most restrictive parts of the system.

 

[awdriven]

The only time I've jammed my 36mm hose with the 1400, it clogged at the coupler, not inside the hose.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

I forgot to say the only benefits you'll see from using the combination 27mm and 36mm hoses will be reduced weight at the tool and easier maneuverability.

 

[Mauri Motti]

Yes Ken, I understand the suction capability when both connected is reduced to the 27mm and probably will be reduced too the longer the hose. But that will only be a bother only when in use with my OF but not with any of my other Festools.
Good you mentioned about the maneuverability of a tool, something I didn't consider at all! [embarassed]

I think that a 5 meter 36 is my answer. No messing around with extending bits and pieces, should do the job when using it to vacuum the floor without having to drag the CTL 26, we don't want that, do we?

Thanks Ken!

@awdriven, the 27 hasn't got stuck using the OF 1400 (though the dust extraction could be improved which I hope to do using a bigger hose) but the hose frequently gets jammed vacuuming the floor after a project is done. Big chips get jammed!

Regards, Mauri

 

[Alan m]

you have a couple of options
1. get a 36mm hose and a whip tail 27mm for the sanders and domino

2nd. get a 50mm hose and a 36mm and 27mm whip tails. these would need the vac end hose end coupler and a joiner 50-50mm.  this would be ok for bench work.

personally i have a 27mm plug it on the boom arm in the shop thats bolted to the wall, a 27nn AS hose that doesnt see much use, a 36mm non AS hose with a 27mm whip tail. the 36mm is my go to hose and the one i always bring with me.

 

[tbellemare]

A 36mm hose is ideal for routing, planing, cleaning, and Kapexing.

Tom

 

[AlexThePalex]

Forget about the 50 mm hose unless you're doing industrial cleaning. For ALL tools, the 36 is good enough, and in a lot of cases the 27 suffices.

 

[Melrabie]

Mauri, to reply to your post #3, the RM D36/27 does not let you connect a 50mm hose to a 36mm hose. What it does do is let's you plug a 36mm hose to a tool that only accepts a 27mm hose.  Note- you need to remove the 36mm hose end and replace it with the RM D36/27 to do this. To connect 2 hoses together you have replace the tool end of the 36mm hose with a D36 DAG and use a D50/D50. You also could use a D50/D36 which is not really what it is designed for.

 

[MadViking]

Get the 36 hose, not the 50 - it will be too big and clunky for use with a plunge router, and the 36 hose is more than enough for that application.

Unless you have a very big shop (or vac in the corner) the 3.5m hose will probably be enough. I never run out of hose with just the 3.5m, but I do have the boom arm (CT-ASA) which comes with a 1m section of 50mm hose which I attach the 36 hose into. But you get 1m or so extra from the vacuum handle anyway. I have the following:
http://www.festool.co.uk/products/accessories/pages/detail.aspx?pid=497701&name=cleaning-sets-d-36-wb-rs-plus

This is the only cleaning set that comes with a 36mm hose, and considering the high price for just the hose this set is a real bargain. Btw if Festool prices in Finland are anywhere near what they are here in Sweden (= bloody expensive) I recommend buying it from Germany:

http://www.gerschwitz-rottenburg.de/gerschwitz/artikel.php?SessID=352349756c46be981be5f62581cd996b&artnr=13110049770100000000
I get most of my stuff here, it's usually 20-40% cheaper than in Sweden, for saw blades almost 50%.

 

[ccarrolladams]

With any of the Festool dust extractors, be those mini, midi, CT22, CT33, CT26, CT36 or CT48, think of the 50mm hose as an extension. With a coupling fitting it can attach to the 27mm, 36mm or even another length of 50mm hose. Personally I do not recommend using 2 length of 50mm hose with one of the smaller hoses.

Like most, my first CT22 came with a 3.5m length of 27mm AS hose. At first I only used it with a TS55 and I was thrilled by the dust extraction. The second evening I owned those I had the change to read the Festool current 2006 catalog. I knew I wanted a cleaning set and read that the 36mm hose was recommended. The next day was a Saturday when my dealer encouraged woodworkers to hang out and exchange ideas.

A fellow who has subsequently become a good pal was introduced to me. I said I had just bought a CT22 and TS55. When I said I was going to get a cleaning set, my new pal suggested I pay extra for a 36mm AS hose and then routinely use it with my TS55. Mind you, I was pleased with the 27mm hose. However, I found life even better with the 36mm AS hose.

First of all, I could cut down the CT suction. Also I found that the slightly stiffer 36mm hose tended to snag less than had the 27mm hose. Five years and thousands of cuts later I still thank my pal for turning me onto using the 36mm hose. I also always use the 36mm hose with the TS75 and OF1400 and OF2200 routers. When I am using the OF1010 for drilling 5mm shelf holes I can use the 27mm hose, but I am so used to the 36mm hose I use it.

I do not need the 36mm hose with the MFK700 trim router or any of the sanders. In fact I am not so sure the 36mm hose is intended to fit on those tools.

 

[justinmcf]

you absolutely need a 36mm hose.

you definitely do not need a 50mm hose.

justin.

 

[semenza]

Hi,

Go with the D36 hose. When I do floor clean up with it I rarely get clogs.

Also when doing clean up with the D27 I find that the clogs are right at the tool end connector 99% of the time. Just pop off the cleaning tube and move the debri.  Not saying it isn't a pain but usually an easy fix.

Seth

 

[Mauri Motti]

Many thanks to all who contributed in this thread! I will go for the 36 and as Madviking suggested, I'll go for the set, I had been looking into this specific set. (Thanks MadViking!) I have been ordering from gerschwitz before, and yes, prices in Finland are over the top too. But... I have found an excellent dealer with excellent service in the city where I live and they know about gerschwitz prices too and when I order a bunch we come to an agreement beforehand (they want to keep me as a customer too, I'm a good costumer [cool], disadvantage is that they carry many more different high end brands ( ;D) and therefore they can't always answer my questions about some Festools details before making some phonecalls etc. Lucky me, I have the FOG.

[thanks]

Mauri  [cool]