All Track Guides with holes and smaller Domino 700 bits

jlcichocki

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I have been a lurker for years and have only registered just recently to connect with an area member.  I have fought the Festool urge for many, many years because I always felt the prices were just too high.  I still think they are. But in some circumstances (sometimes) the old idea, you get what you pay for or the utility/convenience may just plain override common sense.  Don't get me wrong, I see the greatness in these tool and that is why they have always been on my radar.

I feel like I maybe very close to pulling the trigger for the Domino XL and also in the same breath are the benefits of the track saw.  I am doing more woodworking lately and the convenience of both, especially the Domino could be a game changers.  Then of course, it makes you think about adding some accessories to really make the Festool shine....and that's where Festool plunges the dagger.  The add-ons take an already very expensive tool and really make it really painful.

I get it, I'm a businessman too.  Bravo Frestool, it's a brillant business scheme and it works (obviously very well).  Everything works incredibly well together and as I stated, the accessories almost become mandatory to get the most out of the tool.

Without asking for the world to stop rotating, I would plead for two small change considerations from Festool (as in throw a bone to the common man):

1.  Make all guide rails (all sizes) with holes in them.  Then the LR32 system could be added at any time without buying additional tracks.  If we could remove capitalism for just a second.  It seems the essence of Festool is conveniece, integration and time savings.  So, in the hobbiest or small shop, does it not seem reasonable to have maybe only 2 or 3 rails that could do most everything?  Maybe if I jump in hook, line and sinker, I'll see the need for 6 tracks.  But at this point, it seems very difficult to pick a tool to get started.  By my understanding, both the 55" (1400mm) and the 95" (2424mm) guide rails are really worthless (respectfully stated) until the ply is broken down and you are ready to make holes, corrrect?  And it really seems like a time saving pain trying to join tracks to rip a sheet of ply.

2.  Domino XL bits made by Festool that cover all the range of dominos.  I have read that Seneca makes an adaptor.  But as a potential start up customer, I probably would elect to start with the XL and get the most future bang for the buck.  It seems that Festool doesn't miss a trick, so maybe there is a real reason not to have this offering.  But if Seneca can get it done why can't Festool.  Again, in time maybe I will have both the 500 and the XL for convenience or flexibilty. 

Thank you to Festool for any possible future consideration.  I mean absolutely no disrespect in my discussion.  I hope only for a little goodwill gesture for those of us having trouble getting started.

Jeff
 
If you buy the tracksaw (TS55), most dealers are willing to send you the "holy" rail in place of the regular one. As of this year, the price for both of the 1400 rails is the same, so if you plan to use the LR32 system, just ask for the holy rail with your saw.

And on top of all that.... [welcome] to actually participating on the FOG!  As you've probably already gleaned by lurking, there are oodles of Festoolians ready to help and advise.

Cheers,

Frank
 
Welcome Jeff! It's been nice PM'ing back and forth. I'd opt for getting a CT before the Domino...you really need dust extraction for the domino. Buy the saw and get the vac...you will get a discount as well. Not to mention, your wife will appreciate that you are keeping the area clean. :)
 
jlcichocki said:
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I feel like I maybe very close to pulling the trigger for the Domino XL ...
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2.  Domino XL bits made by Festool that cover all the range of dominos.  I have read that Seneca makes an adaptor.  But as a potential start up customer, I probably would elect to start with the XL and get the most future bang for the buck.  It seems that Festool doesn't miss a trick, so maybe there is a real reason not to have this offering.  But if Seneca can get it done why can't Festool.  Again, in time maybe I will have both the 500 and the XL for convenience or flexibilty. 
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Jeff

Hi Jeff,

I have all the Seneca stuff and plenty of Dominos, just awaiting the XL to arrive.
So I suspect that you could just look for Peter Parfett's video on the XL ("New Brit Workshop' on Youtube), as it would likely be better than my jumbled prose.
The small set of dominos comes with the cutters, so all you 'need' is the Seneca adapter.

There is a niche market for 3rd party gear.
I personally see nothing wrong in Seneca or Wookpecker doing the extra gear, especially as no one else did.
If I have dramas with the adapter then I'll post it, but I suspect I just need to be smooth and slow (??).

Randal
 
SittingElf said:
If you buy the tracksaw (TS55), most dealers are willing to send you the "holy" rail in place of the regular one. As of this year, the price for both of the 1400 rails is the same, so if you plan to use the LR32 system, just ask for the holy rail with your saw.

And on top of all that.... [welcome] to actually participating on the FOG!  As you've probably already gleaned by lurking, there are oodles of Festoolians ready to help and advise.

Cheers,

Frank

Not over here they're not, the FS1400/2 is currently £48 and the FS1400/2 LR32 is currently £74.06  [crying]
 
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