Allen Kensley Festool Road Show

barnowl

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I have an opportunity to attend one locally, and have read about Gary Katz's road shows, but was wondering if this would be worth attending.

I'm fairly familiar with my Festools, TS-55, 1400, sanders, etc and was wondering what else there is to learn.

FWIW, my Festools are my favorite and most used tools.

And why does it cost $25 to watch a full day advertisement?
 
Allen is a Festool employee and has been traversing the US this year conducting these events. The purpose is to demonstrate real-world practical applications with the Festool system. I'm sure we have forum members who have attended some of these events and can offer their first hand opinions and commentary. There's also an existing thread about them.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-road-school/

Here's a video of Allen from Festool Connect.



Shane
 
Thanks Shane.

OK, who has attended this show, and what is your opinion?
 
barnowl said:
Thanks Shane.

OK, who has attended this show, and what is your opinion?

I have not attended one of the roadshows yet. I am going to the one in September at the ToolNut! 

I look at every event/demo/class as a possible occasion to learn something. Even if it's just one simple thing, it's worth my time. I also enjoy being with like minded individuals and sometimes, those are where I can learn more than from a demo.

I attended a "chaos theory" demo at a local Woodworkers Club a few falls ago. The entire demo was not very smooth and felt unprepared. But I did learn a few things and still found it worth my time.

Can't hurt to check it out for $25!
 
I attended his session in Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago.  Had a very good turnout from what I could tell.  He demoed the TS55 REQ, parallel guides, domino, CTnn with workcenter, drills, etc. I found the show very useful.  I did end up adding to my green tool collection after the show so it worked for Festool as well. [wink] I am still looking forward to catching one of the 3 day sessions in Lebonon Ind if I can ever get in since they fill up quickly.
 
My blunt answer is that in my opinion only a fool would pass up an opportunity to participate in a Festool End User Training Class in either Henderson, NV9 near Las Vegas) or Lebanon, IN (near Indianapolis). Those are hands-on learning experience for the participants.

People, including FOG members (we are people, too) begged Festool to bring training to locations near to us. In December 2012, Allen Kensley (then the Festool USA Regional Sales Manager for Southern California) and Steve Bace (the original Festool USA Trainer who runs the Henderson, NV Training Center) constructed the prototype of the Road Schools at In-Touch Tools in Palm Desert, CA where they built a farm table before our eyes, meanwhile providing tips on the use of not just the Domino 700 and the TS75, but many other Festools. They also discussed how these worked in congunction with other tools.

There was no reservation fee then. In-Touch Tools not only opened a custom woodworking shop they operate, but provided generous catering and beverages. The sad thing is that people RSVPed and then did not show up, so there were empty chairs. At least the left over food was donated to charity. As part of the feed-back session ending that day, the participants made it clear that we wanted future such events to have a fee to make the reservation. Our collective experience is that when a reservation requires a fee, a larger percentage of those signing up actually show up.

Earlier this year Allen Kensley became a Festool Application Specialist and began the USA Festool Road Schools at K119 near the San Francisco Airport. I gladly used my credit card to reserve a spot and also reserved a motel room because for me that is an almost 8 hour drive. A day before I was to leave I became sick. The motel did not charge me and K119 refunded my fee, which I felt was very generous. Look back on FOG for accounts and pictures of that event.

I finally did catch up with Allen when he conducted a Road School at Anderson Plywood Sales in Culver City, CA about a 30 minute drive from my condo in Hancock Park. The demonstration was marvelous, as was the food and fellowship. Those of us who attended were offered either a refund of our deposit or store credit. I was needful of CT22 bags and used my store credit then and there.

That was a special event because prior to joining Festool USA Allen K had been a sales associate at Anderson. In the years since then I have had the pleasure of seeing Allen K talk Festool countless times at many dealers, and despite my over 65 years making good money building with wood, every conversation with Allen K opens my eyes.

These Road Schools are the kind of important benefit Festool provides. I think it foolish to pass up such an opportunity, but perhaps your mileage will vary.
 
ccarrolladams said:
That was a special event because prior to joining Festool USA Allen K had been a sales associate at Anderson. In the years since then I have had the pleasure of seeing Allen K talk Festool countless times at many dealers, and despite my over 65 years making good money building with wood, every conversation with Allen K opens my eyes.

I'll second that emotion. Allen Kensley was my first contact with Festool (in 2007) when he gave a demo at Conejo Hardware and Stone, in Westlake Village, CA. Since that time I have attended many, many demos by Allen, plus several Gary Katz Road Shows where he was also attending. I have never failed to learn something worthwhile from the guy.

As for the piddly $25.00 fee, I think it's too cheap, I think they should quadruple it.  [smile]

 
Allen was in Chicago a few weeks back, at a Road Show event, sponsored by Woodworld.  I have used Festools as a hobbiest for over 7 years, yet still learned something new from Allen in this session.  He built a 30mm cabinet as a part of the demo.

His tips on 1400 router adjustment, 30mm system details, LR-32 system, and using the parallel guides was most helpful.  I also learned some new things about the Domino and got a chance to see the new saw in action.  There were probably 50+ attendees.  I did not see anyone leave early and many that I talked with felt the same as me, that it was a worthwhile day.

I was lucky enough to win a SysLite as the door prize.  But even without that, I felt the session was very well done. 

The registration fee charged in Chicago was to cover refreshments and a nice lunch.  It also helped them to get a REAL count on attendees, which helped them with seating, food orders, etc.  Woodworld was nice enough to refund the fee and offer an in-store credit for $25 at the end of the session, which I thought was 'over and above' in terms of covering the cost of lunch and refreshments - donuts, cookies, soda - through the entire day.  But Chip and the Woodworld team are that kind of dealer that go above and beyond.

Allen had been on the road for six months driving a van and pulling a camper trailer and sleeping at KOA or similar camping areas.  That's dedication to the job!

I'd recommend the session highly, even if you own and use Festools. I did not consider them a 3-hour commercial, but a learning experience.

neil

 
I was at the Berland's road show, as with anything, there is always something to learn.

Tom
 
Thanks gents.

The $25 to weed out the no shows makes allot of sense.  8)

Which is better? The farmers table build (which is an hour away) or the cabinet construction (which is almost 2 hours away)?

I'm assuming the cabinet construction would weigh heavily on the TS-55 and rails, which I'm fairly proficient at).

 
Cabinet construction was heavily weighted to the TS55, parallel guides, DF 500, MFK 700 and WCR 1000.  I felt proficient at cabinets as well but did learn some things.  Hopefully table session will make it's way round here someday. Even better, I get into one of the 2-3 days classes.
 
barnowl said:
Thanks gents.

The $25 to weed out the no shows makes allot of sense.  8)

Which is better? The farmers table build (which is an hour away) or the cabinet construction (which is almost 2 hours away)?

I'm assuming the cabinet construction would weigh heavily on the TS-55 and rails, which I'm fairly proficient at).

The Farm Table build focus is on using the TS75 and Domino 700 XL with solid hardwood. This opens discussion to many way to make use of Festools in creative ways. The same techniques used for the Farm Table top can create attractive and profitable counter tops.

Cabinet Construction focus is on the Domino 500, the LR32 system as well as the TS55 with guide rails. Clearly participants already fairly proficient using these tools will gain even more useful information.

Building furniture such as the Farm Table is not my career, yet I want to learn other ways I can use my TS75. I own a Domino 700 XL, but I use the smaller Domino more often, so I wanted to see Allen put it to such good use.

Custom cabinets I build 5 or 6 days a week, yet I have attended 2 such End User classes in Henderson and I have participated in 2 of those demonstrations presented by Allen K. I wanted to see how to make good cabinets without all the large machines I normally employ. I find it fascinating and strangely comforting to try building cabinets in class with an MFT setup, TS55, MFK700, OF1010 and Holy Rail and the Domino 500.

Trust me, either Road School will inspire you. You will not loose either way. Or, participate in both demonstrations!
 
I been to quite a few demos at different stores like Woodcraft etc,

Allen is awesome. That man knows these tools and will give you all his knowledge free and can answer any question you have about these tools
 
ccarrolladams said:
My blunt answer is that in my opinion only a fool would pass up an opportunity to participate in a Festool End User Training Class in either Henderson, NV9 near Las Vegas) or Lebanon, IN (near Indianapolis). Those are hands-on learning experience for the participants.

Earlier this year Allen Kensley became a Festool Application Specialist and began the USA Festool Road Schools at K119 near the San Francisco Airport. I gladly used my credit card to reserve a spot and also reserved a motel room because for me that is an almost 8 hour drive. A day before I was to leave I became sick. The motel did not charge me and K119 refunded my fee, which I felt was very generous. Look back on FOG for accounts and pictures of that event.

That was a special event because prior to joining Festool USA Allen K had been a sales associate at Anderson. In the years since then I have had the pleasure of seeing Allen K talk Festool countless times at many dealers, and despite my over 65 years making good money building with wood, every conversation with Allen K opens my eyes.

These Road Schools are the kind of important benefit Festool provides. I think it foolish to pass up such an opportunity, but perhaps your mileage will vary.

Yay!  We're #1!  (I think?)

At least for sure we have the awesomest of photo albums.  Check them out here and here.

Mr. Allen Kensley is an absolute treat.  Our guests enjoyed themselves thoroughly, and only real avid feedback was "more MORE MOREEEE!!!"  Truthfully, Festool Road School was even beneficial to our own K-119 staff, as a refresher for our more advanced Associates, and a very nice primer for our new guys too.  We're trying hard to get Allen back for Round 2 before year end.  Dealer and Clients alike have spoken - WE WANT MORE FESTOOL ROAD SCHOOL!

festool-road-school-event.jpg
 
Just got back from seeing Allan in Champaign, IL - a 2 1/2 hr drive.  He did Doors and Drawers; what a great learning experience.  We saw him several weeks ago here in Chicago.  If he were to be anyplace within a 3 to 4 hr drive, would go again.  Allan is a great teacher.  In both cases the hosts were great as well - WoodWorld and the Chicago Woodworking Institute in Chicago, and CU Woodworking in Champaign.  For the extravagant sum of $25.00, we - I registered/took my wife as well - got continental breakfast, unlimited coffee, juices, cold drinks, great lunch, really nice Festool door prizes, gift certificates of $20 to $25 for Festool stuff, AND, oh by the way, great insights into fast, effective/efficient, and smart ways to use our uber expensive Festool tools.  Yea, I'd say EVERYONE got their money's worth, and once again, Allan really does a great job, and really needs a raise.

DrD
 
Allen used to have demos in my area at various suppliers. He is plain awesome.  The man knows these tools. He will answer any question you have and can help you with any problem you have with these tools
 
I recently attented Allen's Festool Road Show, sponsored by Toolnut, in Mount Kisco.  It was well worth the experience and I learned a lot.  I also learned a lot from asking questions from some of the guys who were in attendance. The learning continued when I went back to the Toolnut store afterwards.  Ken from Festool gave me a personalized and patient demo of the Carvex...Doug of the Sawstop, and Tom on the pica pencil.  I hope that Toolnut makes this a tradition.
 
Like many others that are local to the ToolNut area, I was fortunate enough to be able to take the day and spend it at the Festool Roadshow with a lot of people who (over the years) I have become friends with.

Regarding the day, I think everything went excellent.  The ToolNut did an excellent job finding a room that was comfortable enough for the crowd yet not so large that we felt disconnected from each other and from Allen.  I have attended many store demos and such put on by the ToolNut and am always impressed by their staff.  They have top notch customer service, excellent product knowledge, they're always hustling to answer questions, pull stock, answer phones/emails and the like. 

The demo from Allen was really well executed.  The day consisted of various stages of building a wall cabinet.  Allen stopped at many points and offered Q&A to make sure everybody understood & followed along.  Allen fielded some questions that resulted in him segueing from his task at hand and answering those questions, which many of us do in our daily/hobby routines and the result of that was a small "oops", and one of the carcass legs was a fraction long.  The fantastic side of that was that Allen was able to display how efficient the Festool system is and resolve that in the matter of a moment.  I appreciate situations like that because it happens to all, or at least most, of us and I don't walk away feeling like I'm in an over-rehearsed infomercial!  Ken Barone (the local rep) did a great job on the camera which fed the projector screen.  He zoomed in quite often on certain details that allowed everybody to see on the screen.

I did not attend the day with the intention of learning how to build a cabinet as I do that currently.  My intention of attending was to step away from my day to day and be around like minded people who have the same/similar interests as I do.  I had some wonderful conversations with some people that I had met for the first time and look forward to hopefully hanging around again!

Congrats to Jim (the kapex winner) and much appreciation to Festool for providing those of us that cannot afford the time to travel to you the chance to have you come to us!  Also many thanks to ToolNut for hosting the day and giving us all the opportunity to gather and enjoy a great experience!

If you have an opportunity to attend a Roadshow local to you, I would definitely try to do so!  Who knows, you may learn something new or meet people with excellent ideas and thoughts!
 
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