An amazing set of stairs

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So, I picked this up from the Festool Germany Facebook page and thought I'd share it.  It's an amazing set of stairs done by a Festool user named Dmitry Dovzhenko.  The article is written in German but there are plenty of photos that show the process and end result.

http://www.festool.de/Ueber-uns/News/Documents/DDS-Treppenbau-Nur-mit-Handmaschinen_07-2010.pdf

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Das ist fantastisch.
wirklich
M?ge die Macht mit uns sein Festool
 
That is what I call quality. Need to read it again with my dictionary handy but I think I got the gist of it.
Clever use of angle iron behind the drywall to get a sound fixing, and a great job of nesting all those curved elements from beech plywood.

Thanks Shane, excellent post.

Rob.
 
Awesome stairs. I love seeing stairs like that. Having built a few 'odd' staircases I really appreciate those. However they are not Code-compliant. Also since we as Americans can't seem to pay attention and protect ourselves from harm without a lawyer these days they aren't safe either. Those are unlikely to be approved by any municipal inspector without a special use variance.
- no handrail
- open risers
I wonder how the load rating would work on those with american furniture and refrigerators?
 
Holly crap, that's so cool.  Would not pass in the UK either.  How do they manage to get this past building controll in Germany. If i did that in the UK with no handrail i would be run out of town  [embarassed]

Really  nice find though Shane, thanks for posting.  I love looking at stuff like this  [big grin]

Woodguy
 
woodguy7 said:
Holly crap, that's so cool.  Would not pass in the UK either.  How do they manage to get this past building controll in Germany. If i did that in the UK with no handrail i would be run out of town  [embarassed]

Really  nice find though Shane, thanks for posting.  I love looking at stuff like this  [big grin]

Woodguy

So the handrail is a problem? Are they worried you are going to fall into the wall? hehehe  [big grin]

Thanks for the post Shane. Things like this inspire me.
 
Actually it is a very strong construction, there is a lot of shear load re-inforcement due to the use of domino's, and is cleverly secured into the walls and upper floor by hidden fixings using steel angle iron.
The regulations in the UK allow for an open rise of this type as long as it is not to be used by infants, maybe the Ukraine has similar rules.
Don't dismiss it out of hand because your rules would disallow it, it is a clever design and works and proves you don't need CNC tools to make nice stuff.
Rob.

Edit: I found a couple of pics that illustrate how, seemingly non reg' stairs are allowed, especially when you know more than the building inspector!  [wink]
(to be fair one inspector knew his stuff!).

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Anything a baby can get his head through is not allowed here and that staircase would never pass current codes. Even if there are no kids the next buyer may have them so I do not see how they allow that in your area. If  4" ball can pass through any opening its not allowed on a staircase in my county.

You may not need CNC, but it is a great addition to any shop and opens up a completely new world and many job opportunities one just could not do without the CNC.
 
In the UK your not aloud more than 100mm at the largest point. I always stick to 90mm or less because sometimes budget jobs where the client gets cheap spindles which are really thin they can easily be bent apart.

I dont like the look of them stairs but they are MINT I thought it was moulded plastic at first. Really done good job making all that by hand. Does look good from above though how the light come through very modern. I don't think having open end to the next set of steps  would be aloud in the UK
 
nickao said:
Anything a baby can get his head through is not allowed here and that staircase would never pass current codes. Even if there are no kids the next buyer may have them so I do not see how they allow that in your area. If  4" ball can pass through any opening its not allowed on a staircase in my county.

You may not need CNC, but it is a great addition to any shop and opens up a completely new world and many job opportunities one just could not do without the CNC.
Then they can alter/replace the stair. Things are designed with the current occupier in mind not who will occupy it in ten or fifty years hence. Our standard regs echo yours, however, we also have a lot of provisions in place so do not restrict inventive design when justified.
Many people here think the same as you Nickao, the main rules state  'X' so that's all we can do. Part of the solution here is due to history, if replacing like for like in an old property or listed one, the current regulations are kicked into touch, they no longer apply for that project. And thankfully there are more foresighted provisions.
As for CNC it has it's place but is not the start and end of inventive, artistic design solutions. I cannot think of a job a CNC machine can do that cannot be done any other way, faster, yes, less labour intensive , yes, monotonous boring repetitive jobs, yes. But, not any that can not be done another way.
I am willing to be enlightened if I am incorrect.
Regards Rob.
 
Its like you can have any sort of stairs to your loft but unless its proper reg stairs you can not call it a bedroom.
 
A contractor and I are working on some QSWO steps supported by steel cables hoping to make Stair Porn.
 
I'm glad open stairs are allowed here because I wouldn't want to have to remove my attic stairs right now.  ;D

As for the project above, the curves look real nice but I find the total not so beautiful and it doesn't look practical at all. I think if you'd go up that stairs all day you'd make a wrong step at some point and might get hurt. Knowing how it's made, I also wouldn't trust it, with everything just being glued together. How is that gonna stay sturdy over the years?

Nice as an art project, but this thing would never get into my house.
 
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