Another BBQ cabinet

[Holmz]

About a month ago a friend was asking about a cabinet for his BBQ tool and charcoal. This was after he helped me move a lamello-zeta'ed case in the house.
So we will be using those to hold it together, and using sheet goods.
(It will be ~ 1M high (40") "hutch" on wheels.)

Today we picked up a scrap of 18-mm plywood, and he is going to be trying some stains on it.
We hit it with the Mirka with 120/180/240/320 and then some Surfix oil on part of the scrap. He is probably headed towards a walnut or mahogany tone.
It will live under the eaves, but sun and some wetness is to be expected.
Will the outdoor Surfix work?
Or should a marine varnish be a wiser finish for plywood?
Or something else.

After looking at [member=28483]iamnothim[/member] thread it seems like I got yet another idea...
Has anyone tried that burning technique on plywood with a rosebud torch?

Any ideas appreciated.

 

[Kev]

About a month ago a friend was asking about a cabinet for his BBQ tool and charcoal. This was after he helped me move a lamello-zeta'ed case in the house.
So we will be using those to hold it together, and using sheet goods.
(It will be ~ 1M high (40") "hutch" on wheels.)

Today we picked up a scrap of 18-mm plywood, and he is going to be trying some stains on it.
We hit it with the Mirka with 120/180/240/320 and then some Surfix oil on part of the scrap. He is probably headed towards a walnut or mahogany tone.
It will live under the eaves, but sun and some wetness is to be expected.
Will the outdoor Surfix work?
Or should a marine varnish be a wiser finish for plywood?
Or something else.

After looking at [member=28483]iamnothim[/member] thread it seems like I got yet another idea...
Has anyone tried that burning technique on plywood with a rosebud torch?

Any ideas appreciated.

It's good for boats !! That's how I'd roll with ply.

 

[bobfog]

Personally I've never had much success with marine/yacht varnish as it just sits on the top and creates a film as oppose to being absorbed into the wood so for me an outdoor oil like Surfex or Osmo Poly X 420 would be my choice for easy maintenance.

 

[Kev]

Personally I've never had much success with marine/yacht varnish as it just sits on the top and creates a film as oppose to being absorbed into the wood so for me an outdoor oil like Surfex or Osmo Poly X 420 would be my choice for easy maintenance.

[member=60286]bobfog[/member] are you talking regular timber or ply? Sits on top and creates a layer of protection is exactly what you want on ply combined with the wet. I'd go Osmo on timber too.

 

[bobfog]

Personally I've never had much success with marine/yacht varnish as it just sits on the top and creates a film as oppose to being absorbed into the wood so for me an outdoor oil like Surfex or Osmo Poly X 420 would be my choice for easy maintenance.

[member=60286]bobfog[/member] are you talking regular timber or ply? Sits on top and creates a layer of protection is exactly what you want on ply combined with the wet. I'd go Osmo on timber too.

Apologies. Speed read and missed the ply part. Yeah another vote for yacht varnish!

 

[peter halle]

Regarding the burning technique and plywood - I would have my doubts about it working.  I think that the thin veneer on the face and the glue beneath would be an issue not found with solid timber.

Peter

 

[richk]

[member=60286]bobfog[/member]: what is your source for Osmo poly 420 in the US? I've also had trouble figuring out which Osmo product is being referred to.

This one seems to be what some use:http://www.wood-finishes-direct.com/product/osmo-polyx-oil?sid=2

This one looks like it might be the same, but with different product numbers:http://worldclasssupply.com/store/Polyx-Hard-Wax-Oil-3054-By-Osmo-NA.html

On the UK site there appear to be different levels of sheen but I don't see corresponding products on the US side.

 

[Holmz]

So which marine varnish (ideally a Bunnings, Mitre10 or Home Hdwr Product. Things like epiphanes may be more difficult to get, but if I need it then it can be shipped in (with wheels rather than a hull)

Or do I go with the Osmo 420 over an osmo stain like 712 ebony?

The torch does seem flawed for this.

 

[Stephen B]

[size=13pt][member=40772]Holmz[/member]
Well I certainly am not dismissing OSMO here.

But I doubt an exterior oil, even Festools, will last the distance on ply.

If you do end up at a large green shed have a look at the Bondall Monocel range of marine grade stain and varnish. And it's Aussie Made.

[size=8pt]
Description:
Monocel Gold Marine Grade Stain and Varnish is a high performance single pack transparent finish for timber which is suitable for harsh exterior surfaces and marine timber.

Providing maximum exterior durability and colour retention this stain and varnish is designed to withstand the harshest of Australian conditions. It features advanced NanoZ™ technology (Invisible Zinc) which is a unique ingredient offering protection against UV-light exposure.

NanoZ™ technology (UV resistance)
Australian made and owned
Hard and durable marine grade finish
Heat resistance
Highly resistant to most household chemicals
[size=13pt]
The same place, depending on it's size and your State, may have full size sheets of marine grade ply with a very good vaneer on one side and a fairly acceptable one on the other. Go through a couple in the stack to find the best.

 

[Holmz]

...
But I doubt an exterior oil, even Festools, will last the distance on ply.
...

Luckily the drizzle is gently falling today and the temperature is cool.
I went out to the move the test piece and noticed that the side with the oil applied yesterday and buffed in with the green Surfix Scotch bright pad was the side that has a bunch of splits on sections of the grain and is all washboarded now...

Today's score: Oil 0, rain 1

 

[iamnothim]

I Sugi'd some low grade plywood for you.

It turned out better than I expected.

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