Anti Static Hose 10m

[Mario Turcot]

Hello all,

I am looking into the Anti-Static Hose With Integrated Plug-It Cord 10m (500940) and have a few questions for those in the know.

1) Do the plug-it cable fit for all festool tools, I know the DF 500 use a different cable gauge compare to the TS 55. Will the hose plug-it fit for both?
2) How suction will be affected with a 10m hose versus the standard 3.5m?
3) I need the hose to be about 6m long, is there any other alternative I may look at?

Thanks!

 

[Mario Turcot]

I did some investigation and walked to the local Lee Valley. They do not had the 10m hose in stock but they do have the 3.5m one. I had a look at the plug-it cable and I am glad to announce that the cable fits all festool tools  [big grin]

 

[RustE]

Im fairly certain the 7.5m and 10m Plug-It power cords are 16awg and work with all tools.

Most of the sanders come with a lighter 4m Plug-It power cord that is 18awg.

 

[peter halle]

[member=66597]Mario Turcot[/member] , I contacted Festool today after reading your post.  That item number you are looking for had been replaced by another item,  New item is 201778.  The plug it cord is the thicker cord and can be used with all the Festool tools.

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Peter

 

[Mario Turcot]

Thanks to both for confirming  [wink]

 

[yetihunter]

Are you aware of the new new hose?
https://www.festool.co.uk/campaigns/microsites/dustfree#Introductionhttp://festoolownersgroup.com/festo...oducts-for-january-2018-facelift-for-2-36-48/

Images stolen from [member=41214]Phil Beckley[/member]

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I would not be shocked if they showed up in the March 1st North American Catalog...

I had the sleeved hose with cord.  Does not snag at all.  That was great.
Unfortunately it also tapers down to 22mm, noticeably reducing extraction and clogging more easily.  It's also a dirty magnet. 

 

[yetihunter]

I should add, the new hoses are linkable (the previous ones too, just use your imagination).  And you can always buy a longer plugit cord if you need to...or get an extension cord.

 

[Mario Turcot]

I should add, the new hoses are linkable (the previous ones too, just use your imagination).  And you can always buy a longer plugit cord if you need to...or get an extension cord.

Thank you for your imput.

Well, the reason I am looking at the sleeved hose is because of the plug-it cable. Are you saying that a +7m long cable is available?

Here is what I am planning, Make my own boom arm fixed in a corner. The hose will connect to the Kapex on the left wall and the sanding station on the right wall. All other needs should be covered using a ~7m long hose. The hose will be encased inside a 2inches PVC pipe so no need of sleeve. The problem is more with the plug-it. I don't need it on the Kapex, good. But I need it on anything else.

Tell me where I can find a ~7m long plug-it 16ga  [big grin]

Thanks, Mario

 

[peter halle]

According to Festool USA website:  Plug it cord - 7.5 meters 16 ga (works will all Festool plug-it equipped tools) - # 490657.  You should be able to get thru a dealer (retail item).

Peter

 

[Bohdan]

The hose will be encased inside a 2inches PVC pipe so no need of sleeve. The problem is more with the plug-it. I don't need it on the Kapex, good. But I need it on anything else.

Plug the 2" PVC directly into the CT and then you can put the hose into the end of the PVC. The setup that I used was the high pressure PVC and with a little sanding you can taper appropriate fittings to make the connections.

 

[Mario Turcot]

The hose will be encased inside a 2inches PVC pipe so no need of sleeve. The problem is more with the plug-it. I don't need it on the Kapex, good. But I need it on anything else.

Plug the 2" PVC directly into the CT and then you can put the hose into the end of the PVC. The setup that I used was the high pressure PVC and with a little sanding you can taper appropriate fittings to make the connections.

This is something I never thought... You just give me another puzzle to solve lol... No seriously I like the idea of using the PVC as a suction component. With the 3.5m hose extending from the PVC I should be able to cover all area. Thanks for the tip

 

[Bohdan]

And if you add a Dust Deputy to the suction line you never have to buy a replacement bag for the CT.

 

[pingvinlakrits]

The new hoses can be joined to length. You might have more use of three 3.5m hoses (three length options) than one 10m - bulky and only one length option.

I am personally not a fan of the sleeved hose, I will be replacing mine with the new flexi-hose. They felt very good in hand.

 

[Mario Turcot]

The new hoses can be joined to length. You might have more use of three 3.5m hoses (three length options) than one 10m - bulky and only one length option.

I am personally not a fan of the sleeved hose, I will be replacing mine with the new flexi-hose. They felt very good in hand.

Henrik, thanks for your suggestion. This is a logic option, however it do not solve the plug it problem. If only there was an adapter to link two plug it cable together. Perhaps I can simply extend an existing one and save 125$

Right now this is what I am planning;

- Extend one of my plug it cable to the needed length or get a 7m cable, thanks Peter for the item #
- Install a dust deputy to save on bags, thanks Bohdan
- Use the PVC pipe as a suction component, thanks Bohdan again

These are great suggestions,  many thanks.

 

[peter halle]

Maybe I missed something in the desire to connect two plug-it cords together, but when I need to extend I add an extension cord - even available in short lengths at less cost than a plug-it - and move on.

Peter

 

[Mario Turcot]

Maybe I missed something in the desire to connect two plug-it cords together, but when I need to extend I add an extension cord - even available in short lengths at less cost than a plug-it - and move on.

Peter

Sorry for the confusion Peter. By extending the cable I mean adding an extension cord or just a piece of crimped cable with the exact length. The power cable will be attached to the boom arm permanently.

 

[PeterK]

Maybe I am clueless but I just can’t believe a 33 foot long hose would have much flow as the restriction of that much hose would be significant. I only lengthen a hose by starting with the 50mm hose and step down from that. A long hose is often not laid straight so has even more restriction from any curves and loops.

 

[Corwin]

Maybe I am clueless but I just can’t believe a 33 foot long hose would have much flow as the restriction of that much hose would be significant. I only lengthen a hose by starting with the 50mm hose and step down from that. A long hose is often not laid straight so has even more restriction from any curves and loops.

Keep in mind that Festool lists this 10 meter hose as "suitable for sanding applications," and, for those operations would not require as great a flow as other tools. Yet, if that is this hose's intended purpose, then it makes one wonder why it incorporates the heavier-gauge Plugit cord.  [scratch chin]

 

[Bohdan]

.... then it makes one wonder why it incorporates the heavier-gauge Plugit cord.  [scratch chin]

Cause Festool have got sick of being rubbished for having the lighter cord.  [big grin]

 

[Corwin]

...
Here is what I am planning, Make my own boom arm fixed in a corner. The hose will connect to the Kapex on the left wall and the sanding station on the right wall. All other needs should be covered using a ~7m long hose. The hose will be encased inside a 2inches PVC pipe so no need of sleeve. ...

Not sure I completely understand your intended layout, but, keep in mind that your Kapex will benefit greatly by being serviced with the shortest length of hose possible. Also, use the D36 hose for the Kapex -- that offers better air flow than that of a smaller diameter hose, yet better flexibility than that of a larger diameter hose. I just don't think the Kapex is a tool you want to use in conjunction with a boom arm. So, you may wish to reconsider your layout, or plan on moving the extractor as needed.

As for your other extraction needs, I think all other tool usage could benefit from a boom arm to get the hose up off of the floor and out of your way.

Have you considered the issue of static buildup? If you are using a Festool extractor, you will want to consider this, especially if you also plan to incorporate some PVC and/or a cyclone in the mix which would break the otherwise continuous path to ground. Wouldn't want to blow a circuit board in the extractor.