Anybody learning german

[kev carpenter]

Im going to learn german, just wondering if anybody else is or any german speakers can help. I'm interested in learning woodworking and construction vocabulary first, so i can read all the good holzwerken stuff.

i like learning grammar etc so not looking to learn just phrases. any tips would be helpful

 

[Rob-GB]

I worked in Germany in a Schrienerei, we also prepared coffins and put the new occupants in them. I had to learn the required language by pointing and asking but got a german language book on woodwork to use at home to get a grasp of tool, joint and wood names.
I had some very poor schoolboy german to build on, but carried a collins dictionary/phrasebook with me at all times.
This was on the back of spending two years of night school (learning Greek)  before living/working in Greece for three years.
Night school will make the task much easier, a good tutor will also be helpful for technical words, German has plenty of them!
Once you get a grasp of the basics the grammar gets easier, but you do need the basics to work from.
After a while you will understand, or get the gist, of far more than you can speak due to understanding the subject or nature of the conversation or printed matter.
My go to Dictionary for German/English is the "Langenscheidts Handworterbuch" ISBN 3-468-05129-8
The woodwork book is "Holz" ISBN 3-7701-8616-8 which is a begginers/diy type book.

Hopefully some of the German members may be able to help more.

Rob.

 

[cje]

There are several online possibilities. One of them is livemocha.com, but there are some more.

 

[kev carpenter]

I worked in Germany in a Schrienerei, we also prepared coffins and put the new occupants in them. I had to learn the required language by pointing and asking but got a german language book on woodwork to use at home to get a grasp of tool, joint and wood names.
I had some very poor schoolboy german to build on, but carried a collins dictionary/phrasebook with me at all times.
This was on the back of spending two years of night school (learning Greek)  before living/working in Greece for three years.
Night school will make the task much easier, a good tutor will also be helpful for technical words, German has plenty of them!
Once you get a grasp of the basics the grammar gets easier, but you do need the basics to work from.
After a while you will understand, or get the gist, of far more than you can speak due to understanding the subject or nature of the conversation or printed matter.
My go to Dictionary for German/English is the "Langenscheidts Handworterbuch" ISBN 3-468-05129-8
The woodwork book is "Holz" ISBN 3-7701-8616-8 which is a begginers/diy type book.

Hopefully some of the German members may be able to help more.

Rob.

sounds really interesting, I'm hoping to get a tutor soon but want some one local as my last tutor i had for polish was a hour a away (in the city) and was tuff trying to fit work around and added stress.

how good is the Holz book ? is its 50GBP, but worth it if its good as not much else out there that i can find

 

[andyman]

Worked there many years ago found I could get by with (excuse the spelling if wrong) ein bier bitter & the odd nine  [big grin]

 

[Gerald OAS]

Hi Kev,

I'm not sure what your expectations on a tutor are but I'm from Germany and I'm interested in learning 'woodworking english'. So maybe we can benefit from each other. I'm a reader of Holzwerken as well.

Gerald

 

[kev carpenter]

Hi Kev,

I'm not sure what your expectations on a tutor are but I'm from Germany and I'm interested in learning 'woodworking english'. So maybe we can benefit from each other. I'm a reader of Holzwerken as well.

Gerald

Having a tutor really pushes you and makes you set time aside when you are busy, I'm happy to help.
I can't seem to find reliable tool names i.e.
jig saw
chop saw
router
drill

i have been using festal.de for names but when i check them in collins dictionary online seem to be different.

 

[Davej]

I'm interested in learning 'woodworking english'

But he's Scottish !  [tongue]

 

[kev carpenter]

I'm interested in learning 'woodworking english'

But he's Scottish !   [tongue]

sarcasm is universal i see [big grin]

 

[Gerald OAS]

If you're checking the german festool website (festool.de) you can find the pictures of the products and the correct german name. Probably the easiest way to find out...

jig saw - Stichsäge
chop saw - Kappsäge, I'm not sure. Festools product name would be KAPEX. But on the english website (@Davej: unfortunately there's no scottish one [blink]) it's called mitre saw
router - Oberfräse
drill - Akkuschrauber, if you're referring to a cordless drill.

 

[andyman]

Sarcasm the lowest form of wit [cool]

 

[Gerald OAS]

absolutely no problem for me, don't worry...

If my english would be better I could add some sarcasm myself. [tongue]

 

[kev carpenter]

If you're checking the german festool website (festool.de) you can find the pictures of the products and the correct german name. Probably the easiest way to find out...

jig saw - Stichsäge
chop saw - Kappsäge, I'm not sure. Festools product name would be KAPEX. But on the english website (@Davej: unfortunately there's no scottish one [blink]) it's called mitre saw
router - Oberfräse
drill - Akkuschrauber, if you're referring to a cordless drill.

thanks , I'm making german labels for my tools [big grin]

 

[Wood_Junkie]

If you're checking the german festool website (festool.de) you can find the pictures of the products and the correct german name. Probably the easiest way to find out...

jig saw - Stichsäge
chop saw - Kappsäge, I'm not sure. Festools product name would be KAPEX. But on the english website (@Davej: unfortunately there's no scottish one [blink]) it's called mitre saw
router - Oberfräse
drill - Akkuschrauber, if you're referring to a cordless drill.

thanks , I'm making german labels for my tools [big grin]

To some extent, they already do!

Routers:  (OF1400, etc) =  Oberfräse 1400

Jigsaw (PS300, etc) = Pendelstichsägen

Circular Saw (TS55/TS75) = Tauchsägen

and so on.  ;-)

 

[Wooden Skye]

If you use the google translate app, I am sure you could figure out basic tool words.  I used to use to have a conversation with my 5 year old niece after she returned from Mexico.  I would ask my phone a question and then play it in spanish for her.  Good thing is people use their phones so much nobody will think you are strange having a conversation with yourself. [big grin]

 

[Rob-GB]

sounds really interesting, I'm hoping to get a tutor soon but want some one local as my last tutor i had for polish was a hour a away (in the city) and was tuff trying to fit work around and added stress.

how good is the Holz book ? is its 50GBP, but worth it if its good as not much else out there that i can find

50 quid! Blimey. It didn't cost me that much, it was still D'marks then and was about the only woodworking book on the shelf in a shop in Frankfurt.
I found it useful, but I had to pick up the language for workshop use pretty quickly, the lads I worked with would not speak English but were very patient in using simple German to get trickier points over. I would not say it is worth 50 quid, but I am not in your shoes, it might be to you.
atb
Rob.

 

[fritter63]

I taught myself "ein bishen deutshe" (sp?) whole working for a place with an office in Frankfurt (en main ) and I was traveling over there.

I used the pimsleur CDs.

Been 10 years, but I can still ask for a beer...

 

[netzkind]

The woodwork book is "Holz" ISBN 3-7701-8616-8 which is a begginers/diy type book.

Hopefully some of the German members may be able to help more.

I have not read that book myself, but according to users on the german forum woodworker.de it might not be the best choice. But as I think Rob pointed out, he did not have too much choice in the book store.

I personally liked "Handbuch Holzwerken" (ISBN 978-3-86630-989-3) from the same publisher as the Holzwerken magazine. It doesn't come cheap, but as it is tailored towards beginners, it starts from the beginning, so while reading you get to know the wording. From my understanding it is "just" a translation of an English book, but it's a good one. Oh, and it is from 2011, so it is pretty up-to-date.

Best,
Julian

 

[kev carpenter]

The woodwork book is "Holz" ISBN 3-7701-8616-8 which is a begginers/diy type book.

Hopefully some of the German members may be able to help more.

I have not read that book myself, but according to users on the german forum woodworker.de it might not be the best choice. But as I think Rob pointed out, he did not have too much choice in the book store.

I personally liked "Handbuch Holzwerken" (ISBN 978-3-86630-989-3) from the same publisher as the Holzwerken magazine. It doesn't come cheap, but as it is tailored towards beginners, it starts from the beginning, so while reading you get to know the wording. From my understanding it is "just" a translation of an English book, but it's a good one. Oh, and it is from 2011, so it is pretty up-to-date.

Best,
Juliane holzwerken book is only 20GBP, i have seen german woodworking books for sale on ebay for 300GBP.