Anyone prefer the Classic Systainer?

[fritter63]

I can't imagine the new systainers being anything but vastly superior to the old style.  I hate the old style, mine are all still ridiculously difficult to open after 3+ years.  They're nice to organize stuff, but actually opening them is a pain in the . Don't get me wrong, I'm no wimp, but if I tear another of my very sturdy fingernails off trying to open one, I think I'll lose my cool and have to punish the systainer.

Surely there must a market for a Systainer "latch popper" (I'm thinking a regular small nail pry-bar would work, but might damage the latches. Perhaps one made out of abs plastic?
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[kdzito]

I have the DTS in a classic systainer and am still wanting to pair an abrasive systainer with it (being stacked on the bottom).  I was going to wait for more $$$$ to get one and in finding out that you can't lock a classic on top of a t-loc tried to buy one last week without success.  Not to take any more chances I remember seeing a classic DTS abrasive systainer at the local Woodcraft a couple months ago and should have bought it then.  Just to my luck I called them this morning and found they still had it and to what a relief as now I got it and also had the chance to drool a little over a RO 90.

 

[b_m_hart]

I can't imagine the new systainers being anything but vastly superior to the old style.  I hate the old style, mine are all still ridiculously difficult to open after 3+ years.  They're nice to organize stuff, but actually opening them is a pain in the . Don't get me wrong, I'm no wimp, but if I tear another of my very sturdy fingernails off trying to open one, I think I'll lose my cool and have to punish the systainer.

Surely there must a market for a Systainer "latch popper" (I'm thinking a regular small nail pry-bar would work, but might damage the latches. Perhaps one made out of abs plastic?
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I have taken to using a screw driver to pry them open from time to time.  It's amusing in a sick sort of way to carry an 80 lb cement bag under each arm and then have a hard time opening a freaking tool container 20 seconds later to get your drill out (yes, I have used the C12 to mix concrete, it works quite well for certain mixes).

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Armor All the latches guys.  Then they open so nice my 18 month old can do it.

 

[flair woodworks]

I have taken to using a screw driver to pry them open from time to time.  It's amusing in a sick sort of way to carry an 80 lb cement bag under each arm and then have a hard time opening a freaking tool container 20 seconds later to get your drill out (yes, I have used the C12 to mix concrete, it works quite well for certain mixes).

Good thing you don't store your screwdrivers with your drill!

 

[semenza]

I can't imagine the new systainers being anything but vastly superior to the old style.  I hate the old style, mine are all still ridiculously difficult to open after 3+ years.  They're nice to organize stuff, but actually opening them is a pain in the . Don't get me wrong, I'm no wimp, but if I tear another of my very sturdy fingernails off trying to open one, I think I'll lose my cool and have to punish the systainer.

Here is another way to make them easier to open

  http://www.talkfestool.com/vb/festool-tanos-all-things-systainer/2021-systainer-latches-too-tight.html

Seth

 

[woodguy7]

I have done that to all mt systainers but i use a file insted of a knife.  More controll.

 

[Brice Burrell]

You guys are a bunch of wimps! [tongue]  I have no idea what you guys are doing but the latches aren't a problem for me at all. ???

 

[nickao]

The latches are the reason I sold every classic. The new T-loc will replace every systainer I have, I mean had. The only original I kept was the 30th aniv Rotex case.

Brice you are either very lucky to get every systainer with easy opening latches or your hands are just so strong you never noticed. Possibly popping them open with a screw driver just does not bother you?

I am wondering the actual reasons they changed the cases. The design change shows they were thinking about easier opening for the systainers.

 

[Laminator]

A very thin film of Superlube grease on the contact surfaces of the latch about once a year keeps the old latches very easy to open.  On one very hard to open one (really needed a screwdriver), the knife trick worked wonders.  For my usage I can't really see enough of an improvement in the t-loc  to warrant changing over from the classic, but that may change when a new one comes to visit.

 

[semenza]

I make use of the rectangular holes at the front corners of the Classic.

I assume you are talking about the rectangular holes on the front bottom of the classic systainer.  This was something I was wondering about, as I use them to hold them in place in my homemade Sysport drawers via a protruding Domino affixed to the shelf itself.  Do the new T-Loc Systainers not have the holes in the bottom front?

Same holes but I use the top with the Systainer open for hooks, holders, and stands that I have made.

Seth

 

[NuggyBuggy]

I've never had a problem opening my old systainer latches, but I do have a problem with the latches continuously falling off if you look at them wrong while opening/closing.  With 4 of them per Systainer, it's a major PITA for me.  Do the newer latches stay in better ?

 

[kdzito]

Why would you want an easy open (loose) latch as then it would come undone and spill your goodies!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like that fact that they are secure (tight) and have stayed that way since I first bought them 2 years ago.

 

[Brice Burrell]

Why would you want an easy open (loose) latch as then it would come undone and spill your goodies!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like that fact that they are secure (tight) and have stayed that way since I first bought them 2 years ago.

Mt too, I hope the new T-Loc locks are as good long term.

 

[semenza]

So here is the thing-- some Systainers open much more easily than others.  I may be the in the minority with this, but I have a good number of them. Some are no trouble at all they pop open with a firm flick. Some are so tight that they are real knuckle busters.  So some of the desire to have them open more easily depends on the particular Systainer in hand.

I don't want them to be so loose that they just come open. But making them so that I do not need a tool to pry them is a good thing.  Also as long as the latch has enough click to stay in the upright (closed) position it does not need to be tight to keep the lid shut. 

http://www.talkfestool.com/vb/festool-tanos-all-things-systainer/500-how-systainer-latch-works-removal-installation.html

It is quite possible that some people have not had the misfortune of getting one that can remove a fingernail.

Seth

 

[Laminator]

I like mine to open as easy as possible and if one starts getting a little stiff out comes the grease.  I have never had one open unintentionally and have lifted a ct22 with a 12 and two 8's on top of it many times. (climbing stairs)  Also, if you have one that the lid squeaks while riding in the van, a dab of Superlube on a paper towel wiped around the systainer rim will quieten it very well.

 

[Brice Burrell]

...Also, if you have one that the lid squeaks while riding in the van, a dab of Superlube on a paper towel wiped around the systainer rim will quieten it very well.

Ha, when I first read your post I thought you said super glue the lid, that would certainly take care of and squeak. [blink] [big grin]

 

[peter halle]

I know that that new T-Locs are great, but I have not had any issues with my classic systainers and have no plans to replace them anytime soon, it at all.  As I think Darcy pointed out, some Armor-All will ease the latches.

Never broken or removed a fingernail with mine!

Peter

 

[hanshamm]

i like the old style since they stack side ways in my shelving unit giving me more space for my tools.  The t-loc requires a "front load" approach to stacking the systainers.  Don't get me wrong I like the new t-loc but space is more important. 

 

[Redfox]

I prefer the systainers over the t-loc's. I think Tanos/Festool should have swapped the whole programme, not only the systainers, to be effective. This idea of only a few items seems not very well thought out to me at least. But who knows, maybe something is on the move? I like the fact, that I can stack them (systainers) any way I want, incl. Sortainers. This way i can grab a drill, mix it up with propper tools, and then have the sortainer with e.g. kitchenware (screws, hinges etc) on top, making it more easy to me, and ease my back...  [big grin]

Cheers,
jacques  [wink]