Anyone tape a plugit cable to the outside of the hose?

[Roadkilled]

Hi, I've thought about the plugit hose but I don't see the difference, the plugit hose may look a lot neater. Has anyone else tried this? Pros and cons would be appreciated.

Jon

 

[peter halle]

Many users have attached the cord to the hose.  Some use tape.  Some velcro strips.  Some wire ties.  Some get a sleeve for the hose and enclose the cord inside the sleeve.  How you do it would depend on the budget and the desired appearance.

Peter

 

[jmbfestool]

I did I taped the cord to the hose!   I even cut the hose down to length as it was 1.2 meters longer than the cord.    

It didnt do it for me I got fed up with it and I removed the tape and separated them  and now have a shorter hose than I had before for no reason lol [sad]

When I was using my Rotex 150/90 it was fine and using my Domino but with I used if on my TS55 I kept getting hooked on the rail or the corner of the board because to hose would put the power cord in a position to create that problem.   I thought if I made the hose even shorter AGAIN then the lead would have more slack but thought if I still didnt like it my hose would be even shorter so decided to just separate them.  So now my hose is just slightly shorter than my power cord.

I might just of been doing it all wrong I dont know but it just wasnt working for me

JMB

 

[Roadkilled]

Thanks for your responses, never thought of it catching on the rail when using the TS. Saying that though the hose always snags a little on the rail, I'll keep waiting for a non ridged hose  [mad]

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Thanks for your responses, never thought of it catching on the rail when using the TS. Saying that though the hose always snags a little on the rail, I'll keep waiting for a non ridged hose  [mad]

They make a 13.00 part that will solve you problem.

 

[andy5405]

I've taped mine and it works OK though as JMB says it does have a tendency for the power cord to wrap around the end of the rail. I  wrap my hose over my shoulder if I think it is likely to happen which isn't as awkward as it sounds.

Re the integrated hose and power cord I was recommended not to buy it by my Festool dealer. He pointed out that if the cord gets damaged you have a big replacement bill on your hands.

 

[Roadkilled]

Thanks for your responses, never thought of it catching on the rail when using the TS. Saying that though the hose always snags a little on the rail, I'll keep waiting for a non ridged hose  [mad]

They make a 13.00 part that will solve you problem.

Yeah cheers, I've seen this part but I'll unsure it would work in the real world, is the hose/cable clamped to the rail?

 

[Roadkilled]

I've taped mine and it works OK though as JMB says it does have a tendency for the power cord to wrap around the end of the rail. I  wrap my hose over my shoulder if I think it is likely to happen which isn't as awkward as it sounds.

Re the integrated hose and power cord I was recommended not to buy it by my Festool dealer. He pointed out that if the cord gets damaged you have a big replacement bill on your hands.

Cheers for that Andy. Think I'll give the taped plugit a go and see if it works for me, if not I'll give the over the shoulder method a try.

 

[ccarrolladams]

Festool USA does not offer the hose+Plug-It so that is not an option.

Over the past 5 years I have tried many ways of keeping the hose and Plug-It together. None ever worked for me so I have stopped those experiments.

The Deflector (cat 489 022) helps keep the hose and Plug-It from snagging in the start end of the guide rail.

Extraction of dust is always better using a 36mm AS hose on those machines designed to accept that hose. Within a couple of days of buying my first TS55 I bought such a hose. The less well-known advantage is that the 36mm hose does not snag as easily as the 27mm hose.

Sanders, the OF1010, the MFK700 and the Domino all require 27mm hose.

Personally I like to keep a 16ga Plug-It plugged into a CT for auto-start. When I only had one CT22 I would switch between the 36mm and 27mm hose. I found it a pain to also switch Plug-It, which finalized my decision to no longer try to marry the hose and power cord.

 

[jmbfestool]

Festool USA does not offer the hose+Plug-It so that is not an option.

Over the past 5 years I have tried many ways of keeping the hose and Plug-It together. None ever worked for me so I have stopped those experiments.

The Deflector (cat 489 022) helps keep the hose and Plug-It from snagging in the start end of the guide rail.

Extraction of dust is always better using a 36mm AS hose on those machines designed to accept that hose. Within a couple of days of buying my first TS55 I bought such a hose. The less well-known advantage is that the 36mm hose does not snag as easily as the 27mm hose.

Sanders, the OF1010, the MFK700 and the Domino all require 27mm hose.

Personally I like to keep a 16ga Plug-It plugged into a CT for auto-start. When I only had one CT22 I would switch between the 36mm and 27mm hose. I found it a pain to also switch Plug-It, which finalized my decision to no longer try to marry the hose and power cord.

Yes +1. Forgot to mentioned that!  I prefer to use the large hose for most my tools but domino and sanders require the smaller hose so I decided to use the smaller hose to tape together with the cord but I prefer using the larger hose where possible which meant I would have to unplug the hose AND power cord which was a pain.

I own the deflector and don't use it don't like it just gets in the way and I can't be bothered to put it on and like I said when I had the hose attached to the power cord the power cord would often get hooked on the sheet of ply/MDF.

You see for the deflector to work you hose needs to stay in the deflector through out your cut to work and so your vac always needs to be at the end of your rail where the deflector is other whose your power cord and hose won't be long enough.  Because I work on site I'll often cut from all places and different directions and so the vac would often be in the wrong place.

Did that make sence? Hope it does lol

Jmb

 

[Steve Hiscocks]

Hi, just a metion on i idea i got from a post on here that works well is to put the cable and hose in a braided cable sleeve, very easy to do. Use self amalgamating tape to secure the ends. This also helps with the hose catching on the rail.

 

[Roadkilled]

Hi steve, I remember that post but from memory it was an american post. Where did you get the braided sleeve from?

 

[peter halle]

Jonny Round Boy got his in the UK from this place:  Expandable Braided Poly Sleeve

Peter

 

[Steve Hiscocks]

I cant remember, sorry. But i have just googled it and it is quite easy to get holed of, i do remember it only cost about £8. I think i bought the 40mm.

 

[Roadkilled]

Thanks everyone, going to give the braided hose a try

 

[Peterm]

CPC sell it in the UK in a variety of lengths, colours and widths; I used this one:-

http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=CB13193

Cheers, Pete

 

[Roadkilled]

Thanks for that Peter, much appreciated. Been giving this a lot of thought tonight and I think I'm going to get a 36mm hose for the midi and tape the plugit to it to see if it works in the real world then if it does use the braided hose.

Been on the search function here most of the night looking at upgrading the hose to the bigger size and as far as I can see festool don't do the 36mm conection in an elbow form so I'll loose the ability to stack on top with the hose connected. Has anyone managed to get round this in any fashion?

I feel a bit silly at this question as I can normally work anything out but how does the elbow connection onto the vac come off? I've even got the instruction book out thinking it might be in there but it isn't. Think that's the first time I've read the instructions of any tool I've owned  [unsure] well looked at the nice pictures [big grin]

 

[jonny round boy]

You're right - Festool don't make a 90deg connector for the 36mm hose. Maximum 27mm. You can of course still use a 36mm hose - you'll just have to disconnect it from the vac in order to stack systainers on top.

Also, you might struggle to get the 36mm hose coiled up inside the garage.

A possible solution to both problems would be to get a sys1 or sys2, cut the bottom out of it, and mount it permanently to the vac. That way, there'll be enough height to have the straight hose connector, and extra room for coiling the hose.

As for bundling the hose & plug-it together, I've used the braided sleeving, fixed with adhesive-lined heatshrink tubing, on both my vacs. It's definitely worthwhile. What I would say though is before you do it, make sure you leave enough length on either end of the plug-it to a) plug in to the vac without straining the cable, and b) plug the other end into all your tools without doing the same (for example, the plug-it & vac port on the TS55 are quite far apart. I'd recommend cutting the hose down by around 150mm - this gives you the additional cable length that you need.

As for removing the elbow connector, I don't know if you mean from the vac or from the hose. If it's from the vac, it's just a push fit, so just pull it straight upwards. It can get very tight, and there's not a lot to grab on to, so you could try levering it up with something.

If you mean from the hose, there are 2 small slots in the side of the moulding. stick a small slotted screwdriver in to release the locking ring, and the whole thing will come apart.

 

[Roadkilled]

Morning Jonathan, hope things are good. Cheers for that mate will deffinately do the braided hose. It's the conection to the vac itself, I'll give it a tug and see what happens.

The lack a 90 degree bend for the 36mm hose is a real pain. Has anyone that you know of made one themselves? Something like the swept bends you used on your home made Boom arm?

Cheers Jonathan

Jon

 

[Sean7a]

Simple.  Check out this solution.  It's been a big hit.