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This sander Im looking for a good sander when doing high gloss doors.  Im using 2k urethane primer and base coat/clear coat (automotive finish) Im really looking for a sander that can 1. sand the primer prior to applying the base coat using 400 grit ( the primer Im using turns to powder and sands very easy) but does tend to clog cheaper paper cubitron seems to perform the best. 2. wet sand the clear to knock out any orange peel. In the past I have used a RO sander to wet sand and it seems like the RO scratches are much more difficult to polish out.  I recently re cleared one of my cars and noticed even when using the RO with 3000 grit I had to work much harder to polish out the RO marks than if I wet sanded by hand. I had an easier to polish and better finish even wet sanding by hand at 2000 I ended up doing it in to stages first I would use the 5" RO to level everything out then come back and go back over everything by hand and then polish with foam pad on DA style polisher.

THe primer doesnt need a ton of sanding but since it is so dusty I really want good dust collection and dont really want to be sanding by hand with a sanding block A. because of the mess and B. because of the papers clogging faster with out any DC.  I know they have the sanding block that attaches to a DE but Im not sure how much I will like "hand sanding" with a hose attached. I am one of the odd balls that doesnt mind sanding but the thought of doing it while dragging a hose around is another thing.  I dislike a hose on power sander enough.  I did order one to try but it hasnt arrived to test out yet. However, Im not holding out much hope for liking it. 

Im liking the larger flat surface area of the 3m sander for keeping everything flat, less chance of burning through at the edges and the less aggressive nature of the orbital vs the RO but still concerned with orbital type scratches.  However, Eastwood sells a dedicated wet sander which is an orbital type sander and has good reviews so on the other hand Im thinking this 3m sander should also work well.  The 3m sander doesnt say it can or cant be used for wet sanding but I will be using smaller amounts of water unlike wet sanding a car since its mostly MDF doors I wont be flooding the panels with water just light mists with a sprayer a little at a time so Im not worried about the sander more so just the finish quality and ease to polish the panel out.   
 
I never heard of this sander (though I have heard of 3M).  It sounded pretty expensive, but a little online research shows that it is not near the top of the price range for this sort of item.  This site lists from $77.00 to $725.00 sanders.
https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/category/air-sanders/

I could not find any online reviews though. 

Maybe you could wander into an auto-body shop and ask.  It would be a ballsy thing to do, but they might chat with you.  Bring donuts.
 
Thanks for trying,  The no reviews is part of my issue.  However,  I have never been disappointed by any 3m product so far, so that part isnt an issue. Im pretty sure it will perform well just not sure if it will work better than my Festool sanders for the tasks I need and as you mentioned its not cheap but it is cheaper than the Dynaline sander I was looking at. 

Down here we dont have the friendliest of folks so I would probably just roll the dice and buy it before walking into a body shop :)  I should be able to return it to Amazon if it doesnt work out but I hate doing that and just trying to do as much due diligence before hand. 
 
“Made in Taiwan manufactured exclusively to 3M specifications”

Depending on the exact meaning of the last bit you might find something similar.
 
Take care to find out what the CFM requirements are for these sanders. 

They may use quite a bit of air volume.  Body shops all have really big compressors for the spray guns and it probably is not an issue for them.  I do not see the CFM requirement listed in the AMAZON site, but I might have missed that information.

It would be a rude awakening if you find you need to buy a huge air compressor to run this thing.

The general information I found was this:

What size air compressor do I need for a sander?
Most sanders use a lot of air. These Dynabrade sanders are listed as requiring 14 to 16 SCFM depending on the model. Takes a pretty good compressor. That is about the output one would expect from a 4-5 HP air compressor
 
Hi, lots of painter around here use this brand and they like them,I buy some of there sanding sponges for the dts, they make these both air and electric.guyView attachment 1View attachment 2
 

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You'll be in the 15-18 SCFM range for the 3M sander.

Did you consider a Festool RS 2 sander?

The Festool HSK-A hand sanding block works well and the hose is so small and light that you really don't notice it.

 
Cheese said:
You'll be in the 15-18 SCFM range for the 3M sander.

Did you consider a Festool RS 2 sander?

The Festool HSK-A hand sanding block works well and the hose is so small and light that you really don't notice it.

Originally yes, However in a bosch or makita version since they dont even make the RS2 still as far as I know. I leaned toward the 3m one because it kind of falls into a sweet spot size wise.  Small enough where its not too big for drawer fronts and big enough for larger doors plus being pneumatic I was hoping to use it for wet sanding too.  Im still open to a half sheet but budget wise its one or the other for a bit ( I have already garnered the attention of the CFO this month with some other large purchases so I need to fly under the radar for a month or two).  Im not to worried about the air compressor since its a good size 5hp 60gallon and IM just a one man shop so there is always time for it to catch up. 
 
It is from a very long time ago, but when 3M first came out with Post-It Notes, I submitted an idea for consideration for production (they had a process in place for that).  I suggested that they make Post-It Notes in sheets that could be used in a photo-copier.  I could think of many possible uses for that. 

They wrote back that they had no interest in getting in that business.

Two years later they were selling that exact product.  I don't feel too bad, because it was unsuccessful for them (they did not pay close attention for my list of suggested uses). 

But I never really trusted them (corporate) after that. 

I met a patent attorney later on and he laughed.  If you want to sell an idea that is moderately successful, first get a patent.  If you have a great idea, the big companies will take it without paying a cent (witness intermittent windshield wipers which the car companies used in spite a good patent). 

Sorry I hijacked this thread.  I guess I am still angry.
 
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