Aug 13-14 Festool Workshop at Marc Adams School of Woodworking

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I'm traveling to MASW to attend a few woodworking classes later this year.  I'm signed up for the 2 day Festool Workshop at the Marc Adams School of Woodworking in Indiana (MASW) on Aug 13-14, 2022 with Brian Sedgley.  Is anybody else signed up or planning to attend?  I'm curious what to expect.

I'm a weekend hobby guy and have very low miles on my Festool stuff.  I have several sustainers of goodies going back about 15 years and some are my favorites, but some aren't.  I'd like to hear from others what your likes and dislikes are.    My favorite is the tracksaw while my least favorite is the cordless T handle Drill which died about 2 years ago with very low use.  Both batteries won't charge anymore making the drill useless to me. 
 
Sounds like a fun workshop. As far as favorites, I really like all my current Festool products (see signature block below), but didn't love my early 2000s Rotax sander because it was way too heavy duty for what I needed, and don't think my Trion jigsaw is much better than my old Bosch (the dust collection makes it a little better, though). I loved my old ATF55E track saw, but the depth scale was tough to read and not as easy to adjust as the new TS55, plus I really like the outside splinter guard to protect offcuts of veneered ply and melamine.
 
Sounds like a good time.

Learning how to use  festools is awesome.  I took a few classes from Steve Bace and Greg Paolini. Steve used to say that the average person only uses about 53% of a tools capability. Steve is right.

Im fortunate in that I have Allan Kensley as a close personal freind. He gives me all the advice and training I need.

When yer batteries died ya should of called festool service, I think they may warranty them or maybe help ya out with them.

Im good with festool tools, I got a complete festool shop including CMS w TS 75 and Jig Saw ,Routers modules. I did recently up graded my TS 55 with their new cordless model which Im loving
 
I brought my Festool drill, charger and both batteries to the Festool traveling semi big rig in my town and the Festool guys there said I was SOL with the older age of my drill… even though here was very low miles on it.  They suggested buying a new drill.  I did… a new combo set of Makita cordless drills.  I love them and they are even more powerful than my old Festool drill.  There ya go!
 
White said:
I brought my Festool drill, charger and both batteries to the Festool traveling semi big rig in my town and the Festool guys there said I was SOL with the older age of my drill… even though here was very low miles on it.  They suggested buying a new drill.  I did… a new combo set of Makita cordless drills.  I love them and they are even more powerful than my old Festool drill.  There ya go!

What model drill is it?  Were they NiCd batteries that have since been superseded by LiIon and progressed from 12V to 18V?
 
White said:
I brought my Festool drill, charger and both batteries to the Festool traveling semi big rig in my town and the Festool guys there said I was SOL with the older age of my drill… even though here was very low miles on it.  They suggested buying a new drill.  I did… a new combo set of Makita cordless drills.  I love them and they are even more powerful than my old Festool drill.  There ya go!

What you think batteries last forever?

Did you expect them to give you a new battery?

I got both a C12 and C18 Ive had for many years and still use the original batteries.

no problems with them.

If ya like Makita they make a track saw to and you can use yer festool rails.

So you can sell yer festool ad buy Makita  see there ya go problem solved
 
As technology gets better we can expect our once revered high end tools to be considered dinosaurs of the past... even if they are still in NEW condition.  Don't you love that sinking feeling after several years of just finally being able to afford an expensive item only to find out that if you had waited another month you could have bought the newest one?  Would be nice if Festool led the way with customer satisfaction and sent previous tool owners a notice of an updated item, or possibly letting you trade in an older model with a credit towards the newest one.  Many companies sell reconditioned tools.  I've bought my last Festool item.  I'm considering selling off many of my Festool items with very low miles to a Brand Snob.  Of course they can always buy new ones with a 15% markup.
 
White said:
As technology gets better we can expect our once revered high end tools to be considered dinosaurs of the past... even if they are still in NEW condition.  Don't you love that sinking feeling after several years of just finally being able to afford an expensive item only to find out that if you had waited another month you could have bought the newest one?  Would be nice if Festool led the way with customer satisfaction and sent previous tool owners a notice of an updated item, or possibly letting you trade in an older model with a credit towards the newest one.  Many companies sell reconditioned tools.  I've bought my last Festool item.  I'm considering selling off many of my Festool items with very low miles to a Brand Snob.  Of course they can always buy new ones with a 15% markup.

What tool is it that you just bought?

Seth
 
White said:
As technology gets better we can expect our once revered high end tools to be considered dinosaurs of the past... even if they are still in NEW condition.  Don't you love that sinking feeling after several years of just finally being able to afford an expensive item only to find out that if you had waited another month you could have bought the newest one?  Would be nice if Festool led the way with customer satisfaction and sent previous tool owners a notice of an updated item, or possibly letting you trade in an older model with a credit towards the newest one.  Many companies sell reconditioned tools.  I've bought my last Festool item.  I'm considering selling off many of my Festool items with very low miles to a Brand Snob.  Of course they can always buy new ones with a 15% markup.

I'm with you on this!  In 2018 I bought a new Ford Ranger Wildtrak pickup.  Imagine my surprise when less than a year later, Ford released a 2019 model.  What kind of business practice is this and where is their customer loyalty??  Someone should have told me that a new model would be available within the year.  If I had only waited 10 more months, I could have had a brand new 2019 model instead of the aging and decrepit 2018 model.  To make matters even worse, a year after that Ford released the 2020 model.  [mad]  I'm not happy with Ford now, but I suspect a 2023 model might be available soon, and I'm stuck with this boat anchor.

 
MikeGE said:
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Someone should have told me that a new model would be available within the year. Snip.

I know of no local car dealership that does that. Neither did the Honda dealership (case in point: CRV) nor did the Lexus dealership (RX350) that I dealt with say anything about new models coming out the next year (DAMHIK!).

So when I was in the Lexus dealership last summer and approached by one of the salespersons, I told him I'd never make the same mistake of buying another car whose model was to be significantly updated the next year. He whispered to me..."Come back next year for the brand new 2023 generation of RX350." (I haven't decided if we're getting the new RX...but if we do, that salesperson -- who has been with the dealership for at least a decade -- will be our sales agent.)

Edit: I forgot to mention the same mistake I made on the Honda Pilot, too!
 
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