Be like Matt Damon in Elysium

[smorgasbord]

Recent Festool Live on the ExoActive EXO 18:

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[Packard]

The thing that concerns me is that the typical replacement joint flexes on one plane, and it replaces a joint that operates in three dimensions.

So my elbow allows me to do biceps curls, but also allows me twist my forearm maybe 135 degrees, even more under stress.

What is the long term effect on the human body when the physical aid is just crudely mimicking the actual movement?

 

[Mini Me]

I have job related shoulder injuries and I do wonder how much research has been done in relation to this device. Certainly in my job it would be impossible to use but certain jobs might benefit. Being a first generation of this sort of thing we might expect improvements as experience on the job reveals problems but call me sceptical.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I have job related shoulder injuries and I do wonder how much research has been done in relation to this device. Certainly in my job it would be impossible to use but certain jobs might benefit. Being a first generation of this sort of thing we might expect improvements as experience on the job reveals problems but call me sceptical.

You missed a golden opportunity for scapula  [big grin]

 

[Allano]

Too much foreplay in that video.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

Go big.

Or go home.
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[smorgasbord]

I assume a purchase would have Festool’s 30 day refund policy, no.

 

[Packard]

I assume a purchase would have Festool’s 30 day refund policy, no.

30 days might not be long enough for a repetitive use ailment to surface. 

And reliance on this device would likely result in a weakening of the muscles due to under-use.

 

[mino]

30 days might not be long enough for a repetitive use ailment to surface. 

And reliance on this device would likely result in a weakening of the muscles due to under-use.

The main usage is to allow working high up where just holding the weight of one's hand is a signifficant load on the muscles and joints.

One's muscles would not atrophy anymore than they "would" for someone who is not working with hands high-up.

Yes, it is likely one would not build-up unusually strong muscles. But it is not natural for humanoids to work with hands high-up for prolonged periods in the first place. Our bones, joints, muscles, circulation system. Nothing is built for that

If anything, usage of this type of a system is more likely to prevent degenerative effects of such work on the body.

Knowing German culture, I would not be surprised if usage of such a system is mandated for some occupations down the line.

 

[rst]

After 39+ years of automatic door work with arms above head and  diminished vision, I’m 71 and shoulders are trashed.  Doctor told me I had two options, stop working and shoulders would hurt or continue and shoulders hurt.  71 now and still working partially lifting 100+lbs glass and doors.  Growing old ain’t for the weak, really can’t complain

 

[woodferret]

I have job related shoulder injuries and I do wonder how much research has been done in relation to this device. Certainly in my job it would be impossible to use but certain jobs might benefit. Being a first generation of this sort of thing we might expect improvements as experience on the job reveals problems but call me sceptical.

We've had these things for quite a while in aerospace and automotive (mid 2010s IIRC).  Not really first gen.

 

[Mini Me]

I have some family members involved in automotive and no one has heard of using these devices in Australia.