"I'm too poor to afford cheap tools"; What Festools exude value?

Picktool said:
You have 2 coins that equal .30¢, one is not a quarter
Whatta ya have?

In OZ that would be our 20c and 10c coins, we also have $1, $2, 50c and 5c coins. The 1c and 2c coins were retired many years back.
 
friedchicken said:
woodferret said:

darn.  CMT are nice!  That's not a terrible price at all.

Although, re: standard blades: what on earth is "HW 160X1.8/1.2X20(+16) Z=40"?!?!?!?

As a big fan of HKC with FSK250 rail, I also use inexpensive CMT blades. I only reduce the number of teeth, 271.160.24H (160 diameter, 24 teeth), crosscutting even thick boards. When I cut plywood or OSB panels, I use the TSC55 (older generation TSC55 with 2.2 kerf width) with regular FS rails, if OSB I use a 24 teeth, if plywood I use 24 or 40+ teeth.
 
Picktool said:
You have 2 coins that equal .30¢, one is not a quarter
Whatta ya have?

Well, technically “0.30 cents” is 3/10th’s of a penny, so I sure don’t know the answer……. [big grin]
 
Of course if we’re speaking of 0.30$ (30 cents) then the answer is the “one coin that’s not a quarter” is a nickel….

But you can’t buy anything Festool for this price.
 
Here is my dilemma. I am a missionary with Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Moved with my job 2 years ago and had to sell all of my tools because I had nowhere to store them. Now I have absolutely nothing. I am looking for a miter saw, sander, track saw, router, dust collection and a jig saw. I used some Festool products when I sold my tools and know the quality, but to buy all I need would be right at $5k.

I can buy "cheaper" brands, but after working with Festool products, it's hard to go back to Dewalt, etc. I'm just struggling with the money for it all.
DeWalt , Makita , Bosch etc prices are steadily increasing to the price point of Festool , I just sold a nearly new Bosch Gks 57-2 G for the older battery powered Festool Tsc 55 Reb
My own thoughts are the Festool is night and day better than the Bosch , Guide tracks maybe a different matter
Each to their own
One man's mini is another man's rolls royce
 
Today's Mini might be more luxurious than 15 years old Rolls Royce.

In some aspects of course
Sure, but trinkets be trinkets. Luxury starts with the basics. With the wheelbase of a baby carriage there is no talk of "luxury" with the Cooper, nor the modern "Mini" compacts.

Try riding in a well-maintained 1980s Mercedes W126 and you will understand. Rolls, even a 1950s one, is in a different class above that.

Oh, and in the back seat, of course. A car without a chauffeur is no worthy of a "luxurious" label to begin.

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To topic, this applies to FT in many cases. What makes FT (and Mafell) kit expensive and worthy at the same time is they bother to get the basics fundamentals right. The Motor, the fittings, the chassis that does not fall apart five years later along with the ergonomy/comfort side, then the availability of spare parts and maintenance. In this the W126 is actually a pretty good reference, though W124 would be a better one possibly.
 
With the wheelbase of a baby carriage there is no talk of "luxury" with the Cooper, nor the modern "Mini" compacts.
But besides wheel base..

They actually do have the same tire size (within 2% of outer diameter)

The Mini accelerates faster too.

Oh, and in the back seat, of course.
No thanks. I believe in the necessity of headrests in a car. Although some of them were sold with them I see.
 
RO 90 and 150 in automotive.
I could not belive that delta attatchment could be needed but geez, on rims or somewhere where either Mirka Deos block does not fit, its wonderful.

In Rotex mode, stripping down or even through metal is not a question. 150 can be onehander in regular DA mode but not for long.

And polishing. 1) There is no competition for RO 90
2) 150 basically equals Rupes Mille and polishes or cuts great.
 
Really late to this thread and not actually going back to read the -looks- 7 previous pages :)

What sold me on Festools was a post here by somebody (I could never locate the post later when I wanted someone else to read it; sadness). The post was titled something like "5/5/5" which came from "5 Festools, used 5 days a week for 5 years". I'm certain the guy was a UK contractor who did on-site work. Festool was still mostly considered too fancy for Miller Lite drinkers in the States. Did I say that aloud? mea culpa...

Anyway, his point was that he used these 5 Festools every day for 5 years and recently sold them off. Due to the price-lock and the yearly price increases, he sold all of them for 80% of the current prices. In the end, he essentially used high-quality tools for 5 years making money and the out-of-pocket cost was minimal. No other tools have this resale; I do take that back a bit because, since Festool did this, others have jumped on board.

This is also my reasoning for jumping onto Bridge City Toolworks hand tools. Since the sale to Harvey, resale has gone down, but prior to that, the "omg you're crazy paying $800 for a block plane!" for the CT-17 (which touches EVERY SINGLE PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS SO GOOD) always netted 2-3 times the original cost on eBay resale. It still makes a profit, though mine will make less because I actually used it, a lot.
 
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Glad you got a Festool that exudes value!
I don't see any comparable option currently on the market. Router accessories are a huge pain in the ass to use; festool pulls this off as better than anyone (although not on the of1010 for some reason). I'm not getting rid of my porter cable d-handle anytime soon though.

Unfortunately, the seller sent the wrong cable with the router, but resolved it quickly by ordering the right one to my house - letting me keep the extra cable (for sale if anyone wants it hah). Still waiting for shipping, so only able to admire the tool from look/feel and not use 🙄.
 
I don't see any comparable option currently on the market. Router accessories are a huge pain in the ass to use; festool pulls this off as better than anyone (although not on the of1010 for some reason). I'm not getting rid of my porter cable d-handle anytime soon though.

Unfortunately, the seller sent the wrong cable with the router, but resolved it quickly by ordering the right one to my house - letting me keep the extra cable (for sale if anyone wants it hah). Still waiting for shipping, so only able to admire the tool from look/feel and not use 🙄.
I sure would like to hear more details about this, well actually both paragraphs.
What accessories are a pain? How? I find all of the Festool routers to be far more capable/versatile than any other on the market. I've tried a whole lot of them. (Currently owning PC, DeWalt, Bosch, Rigid, Makita, Milwaukee, Triton)

The part about the cable is confusing too. I am well aware that there are two versions of the Plug-it cable (in the US)
but I have never seen or heard of the wrong one being delivered, with the tool. Though I'm assuming new....maybe not? very curious
 
Really late to this thread and not actually going back to read the -looks- 7 previous pages :)

What sold me on Festools was a post here by somebody (I could never locate the post later when I wanted someone else to read it; sadness). The post was titled something like "5/5/5" which came from "5 Festools, used 5 days a week for 5 years". I'm certain the guy was a UK contractor who did on-site work. Festool was still mostly considered too fancy for Miller Lite drinkers in the States. Did I say that aloud? mea culpa...

Anyway, his point was that he used these 5 Festools every day for 5 years and recently sold them off. Due to the price-lock and the yearly price increases, he sold all of them for 80% of the current prices. In the end, he essentially used high-quality tools for 5 years making money and the out-of-pocket cost was minimal. No other tools have this resale; I do take that back a bit because, since Festool did this, others have jumped on board.

This is also my reasoning for jumping onto Bridge City Toolworks hand tools. Since the sale to Harvey, resale has gone down, but prior to that, the "omg you're crazy paying $800 for a block plane!" for the CT-17 (which touches EVERY SINGLE PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS SO GOOD) always netted 2-3 times the original cost on eBay resale. It still makes a profit, though mine will make less because I actually used it, a lot.
I couldn't agree more, though I'm not selling mine.
I didn't buy them with the intention of selling, I bought them for the experience of using them. The system approach and unique abilities of the whole package has increased my speed and eased my process.
My RAS115 is probably worth more than I paid for it
 
My RAS115 is probably worth more than I paid for it
When they were discontinued, I nearly bought a second backup RAS-115.

Later, I noticed this Arbortech power carving tool that has a sanding pad for 115mm discs. Looks very familiar. This also has a leveling attachment, which would be very useful. I just wish the chip catcher was more like the RAS using brushes instead of a hard side
 
I sure would like to hear more details about this, well actually both paragraphs.
What accessories are a pain? How? I find all of the Festool routers to be far more capable/versatile than any other on the market. I've tried a whole lot of them. (Currently owning PC, DeWalt, Bosch, Rigid, Makita, Milwaukee, Triton)

The part about the cable is confusing too. I am well aware that there are two versions of the Plug-it cable (in the US)
but I have never seen or heard of the wrong one being delivered, with the tool. Though I'm assuming new....maybe not? very curious
It's... really not that interesting?
I got the router used and the guy sent the wrong cable (he was liquidating his festool).

Re: accessories: they're all a pain in the ass to use, but festool does it best (uniknob, the long and included rods with a place to store them so you don't use them, the wrenching collet, etc.)... but the OF1010 router doesn't do this as well as the of1400 with its accessories.

Why do you own routers from 8 different manufacturers?
 
When they were discontinued, I nearly bought a second backup RAS-115.

Later, I noticed this Arbortech power carving tool that has a sanding pad for 115mm discs. Looks very familiar. This also has a leveling attachment, which would be very useful. I just wish the chip catcher was more like the RAS using brushes instead of a hard side
I did buy a second, but I went to see the Arbortech tool you linked anyway. It looks like the scope of delivery is as a sander. The cutting blades are extra.
 
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