Best Portable Miter Saw for Aluminum?

Phred

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I own a glass shop that installs residential shower doors and commercial storefronts (among other products).  We have used standard chop and miter saws to cut aluminum extrusions.  This results in lots of small aluminum shavings that create a mess on job sites--primarily the residential ones since almost all of the commercial fabrication is done in our shop.  We use tarps to try to catch the shavings, but I'm wondering if there are better ways to minimize the problem.  Here is what I've looked into so far:
1)  Cold saws:  Pro is slower speed so shavings don't travel as far.  Con is weight (higher cost is tolerable if it cuts down on clean up time and increases safety and customer satisfaction).
2)  Standard saws
a) Fabricate a hood to catch shavings flying off the back of the saw and divert into a bucket?
b) Try to hook to a vacuum, most likely in conjunction with a).  But is there a risk of still-warm shavings landing in a flammable bag?  Are the long-life bags more combustion resistant than standard paper bags?  Better to eliminate use of a bag altogether?
3)  Kapex?  But is the speed of the blade faster than ideal for aluminum and would the aluminum shavings be compatible with the dust collection system?  Are the shavings too heavy (compared to wood dust) for effective capture?  I mention this because the Festool vacs don't do such a great job on glass particles created in sanding operations (during edgework on glass).
4)  Evolution chop saw (e.g. Evolution at Amazon?  Material handling clamp looks cheap and I don't see any built-in chip capture mechanism.  Positive with some mixed reviews.  Made in China.

The standard Makita, DeWalt, and other saws don't last as long as I'd like (metal work seems tough on their arbors), and the blade speed creates safety risks that I'd like to reduce.

Any input, words of advice, and specific recommendations would be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks for reading,
Phred
 
Some miter saws are better at catching dust than others. From what I hear a Kapex is at the top. Of course it also helps to attach it to a vac and make a shroud around it.

As for sparks, that's always a possibility when you cut metal. Don't know if one bag is better than the other, but Festool does make a special spark trap that should solve the problem before it reaches the bag.

http://www.amazon.com/Festool-484733-Spark-Trap-Extractors/dp/B002VMU78K
 
The kapex has a speed control dial so you can slow the blade down for cutting  aluminum or plastics and they also make an aluminum cutting blade.
 
BBuild said:
The kapex has a speed control dial so you can slow the blade down for cutting  aluminum or plastics and they also make an aluminum cutting blade.

That's why I'd say the Kapex is best for cutting aluminum. Aluminium too.
 
mohrab said:
Haven't tried this but have been thinking about it for an 80/20 project:  http://www.swagoffroad.com/SWAG-V30-Portaband-Table_p_55.html

I have the SWAG/Portaband combo and love it, however it is not the right saw for 80/20, IMHO. To use many of the 80/20 fasteners the extrusions really need perfectly square ends, not something I can get from that saw. My portaband blade does not even cut square to the miter slot in the SWAG table, and there is no way to adjust it. I use it for freehand cutting, and it excels at that.

For 80/20 I use a Milwaukee dry-cut saw, prior to that I had the same type of Dewalt but the clamp was awful so I replaced it with the Milwaukee. It cuts great, however RE: the OP's original questions - this saw throw chips everywhere.

Visually, the Milwakuee looks pretty similar to the Evolution, & the clamp on this saw works well, unlike the Dewalt.  [2cents]

RMW
 
I've worked for a commercial glass/storefront company 34 years.  We use Makita 10 and 14" saws exclusively.  They last forever, we've owned three 10"ers and never wore one out.  There are no sparks with aluminum, only ferrous metals.  I use a shop vac and have attached 3" NGP door sweeps to either side to help control flying chips...it helps tremendously.  We have made...literally multiple thousands of cuts with the Makitas.  Buy a commercial aluminum cutting blade (Amana, Freud, AGE) and spray occasionally with WD-40 and you will have perfect results.  I have a shop mounted setup with 14' extensions on both side of the saw (our material comes in 245' extrusions) and measuring fence made form 2X2" aluminum angle with a stop block for shop prep.
 
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.  So far, I've picked up some tarps, runners, and pads with a Keter folding work table.  Probably going with a Rousseau hood (very much like the newer Fast Cap hood but available locally).  Still researching saw options.  We've used Makita's for years but still looking at alternatives.  Not worried about sparking, more about warm shavings in a paper bag.

Thanks again!
 
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