Better Methods for Building Cabinets

[tjbnwi]

8’ Miter locks and a bunch of T&G with pocket screws.

Well you've certainly got the lock miter down pat.  [not worthy]  I'm assuming you used a router on a rail for that?

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[member=44099]Cheese[/member]

Don’t be taken aback by the fat old ugly guy in the video.....


Tom

 

[GoingMyWay]

Thanks for sharing the video.  A video always makes things clearer.  Is that you in the video?  It's cool getting to see what a poster looks like in real life!

 

[tjbnwi]

I have relied heavily on Marc Sommerfelds videos and products and built many cabinets from 30" to 96" and they are always strong.  I am, however, going to take a page out of Tom's post and use screw on backs rather than rabbets and dados.  Bill

I do place the backs in a groove. I cut them about 1/32” shy of the width, then screw them in place. Having them in place allows me to move the cabinets without racking them. Once theyre ready for finish I pull the backs.

My preferred method of finish is pull the face frame, finish, reinstall, but with all of the panelized ends it’s not possible on most of these cabinets.

In the photo below you can see the dado for the back panel.

It use 1/2” back panels because most installers get carried away tightening the screws and don’t bother shiming behind the attachment point.

This set of uppers will be installed on French cleats, the uppers are 13” deep.

Tom

 

[tjbnwi]

Thanks for sharing the video.  A video always makes things clearer.  Is that you in the video?  It's cool getting to see what a poster looks like in real life!

Yes, I’m the fossil in the video....who else would be crazy enough to try this?

Tom

 

[Cheese]

Ya, thanks for the vid Tom...the extensions on the fence probably make a big difference.

Curious what thickness of ply you use for the back.  Is that the new shop?

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[tjbnwi]

Ya, thanks for the vid Tom...the extensions on the fence probably make a big difference.

Curious what thickness of ply you use for the back.  Is that the new shop?

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See reply #22.

Yes.

Tom

 

[Mario Turcot]

Back to the topic!

Anxiously awaiting my order  [scared]

 

[live4ever]

To echo [member=63192]lwoirhaye[/member], definitely what's missing from the cabinet book world is some of the "art" of cabinet building and installs.  The tips and tricks that go beyond plywood boxes.  For example, in a kitchen:  vent hood covers, the little tricks to keep in mind for appliance cabinets, different methods for installing cabinet molding, glass doors, incorporating undercab lighting/wiring, island design, etc.  And though the various YouTube videos are awesome, perhaps it's time for someone to write a tome on Festool and cabinetmaking. 

[member=4105]tjbnwi[/member] Maybe after this current adventure is over...  [big grin]

 

[tjbnwi]

To echo [member=63192]lwoirhaye[/member], definitely what's missing from the cabinet book world is some of the "art" of cabinet building and installs.  The tips and tricks that go beyond plywood boxes.  For example, in a kitchen:  vent hood covers, the little tricks to keep in mind for appliance cabinets, different methods for installing cabinet molding, glass doors, incorporating undercab lighting/wiring, island design, etc.  And though the various YouTube videos are awesome, perhaps it's time for someone to write a tome on Festool and cabinetmaking. 

[member=4105]tjbnwi[/member] Maybe after this current adventure is over...  [big grin]

The most important thing to the “art” part is the appliance selection prior to fabrication. The cut sheets will define what needs to be done with the appliances as far as fit and function.

In and undercab lighting can make or break a project. Below are a few pics of grooves routed to accept LED channel. Groove is exposed for wire pass through.

I’ll get some more pictures as I move along on this one.

Tom

 

[sancho57]

Here's another one

"Making Kitchen cabinets: A foolproof system for the home workshop", Paul Levine  The Taunton Press, 1988

A good overview, without a lot of detail, and mostly covering frameless (Euro-style as it was called back then) cabinets.

I got that book. I used it as my cab making bible when I first started out. I got the video to.

Its a great book and video if ya can find a copy.

Im taking Paolini's Cab making and doors and Drawers class in Sept. I figured who would know them better then a pro cab maker.

 

[sancho57]

Thanks for sharing the video.  A video always makes things clearer.  Is that you in the video?  It's cool getting to see what a poster looks like in real life!

Looks like you have a executive profile like I do  [big grin]

 

[SilviaS7]

I ordered both books and they arrived today, thanks so much for featuring a few books for newbies like me to get into cabinet making.  [big grin]

 

[Klemm]

I ordered both books and they arrived today, thanks so much for featuring a few books for newbies like me to get into cabinet making.  [big grin]

[member=67095]SilviaS7[/member] - nice of you to comment. Your interest is exactly why we chose to add these book offerings to our website. Between actively participating on the FOG and referring to your new library additions you'll be well on your way.

After you have taken a closer look at your books it would be great if you would share your experience via a REVIEW on our TSOproducts.com website BOOKS product page. - Tell it as you see it with the idea of helping others.

Hans

 

[SilviaS7]

I ordered both books and they arrived today, thanks so much for featuring a few books for newbies like me to get into cabinet making.  [big grin]

[member=67095]SilviaS7[/member] - nice of you to comment. Your interest is exactly why we chose to add these book offerings to our website. Between actively participating on the FOG and referring to your new library additions you'll be well on your way.

After you have taken a closer look at your books it would be great if you would share your experience via a REVIEW on our TSOproducts.com website BOOKS product page. - Tell it as you see it with the idea of helping others.

Hans

Hi Hans!  I just left a review for the Paolini book.  It's truly a great resource.  I don't have anyone in my family or circle of friends who is in the trades so I'm often trying to look things up online or find Youtube videos to help me understand something I want to try.  What a lot of those things miss is explaining the vocabulary relative to the task as well as the "why" to many parts of the process.  Paolini's book is perfect for me, because it really explains everything there is to know about building cabinets.  I haven't even watched the DVD yet but I'm very happy with just the content of the book alone.  Thank you so much for finding and featuring a book like this for someone like me, it's basically taken all of the things I would have had to research independently and put them into one great reference.

 

[Klemm]

[member=67095]SilviaS7[/member]  - thank you for your REVIEW on TSO's website product page - it will go public tomorrow. Your post on this thread makes a good point about vocabulary for newcomers to woodworking. Seems every human activity develops a vocabulary of its own to make it easier / quicker for the insiders to communicate - at the expense of newcomers. We'll keep that in mind as we write explanatory copy.

And there are purchasers of these books out there from whom REVIEWS would be helpful - how about following Silvia's example and point out what you found helpful  and what may be missing for your needs.

Hans