Bluetooth Battery doesn't work. In just one tool!

GarryMartin said:
Nonetheless, good reminder for people that the battery firmware is upgradeable via the Festool Work app.
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It would be great if FT could use the BT battery as 'proxy' to update the firmware of the connected machine. Saves you the sending and waiting ;) Free idea!  [big grin]
 
threesixright said:
Stating the maybe obvious. Did you guys updated (and checked version/)  the firmware on the batteries?

I have updated my BT battery (don’t have a HKC) at least twice in the last months.

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Exactly what I don't want to be involved with in my tools which I just want to work without futzing.
 
JimH2 said:
threesixright said:
Stating the maybe obvious. Did you guys updated (and checked version/)  the firmware on the batteries?

I have updated my BT battery (don’t have a HKC) at least twice in the last months.

Sent from my X using Tapatalk
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Exactly what I don't want to be involved with in my tools which I just want to work without futzing.
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Maybe you rather send it in and wait 3-5 days before your tools are back?

Don't want to burst your bubble, these are software issues that come with the territory (not agreeing with that). Days that a hammer was just that, a hammer, are over. Nowadays a hammer send back to your boss how many nails you 'nailed' (LOL) in the last hour. I'd say stay away from anything with a power cord  ;)

Efficient power management, charging, etc. doesn't come easy and for sure not possible with analog circuitry.You need microprocessors and therefor you need software. Software = bugs. You win some, you loose some.

IMO for companies like FT this (bluetooth stuff) is whole new dimensions. Even companies like MS, Apple, etc. are not able to release bug free stuff, I don't have high hopes. Maybe FT outsourced this part, maybe they do it in-house, either way it will bring issues. Doing software development myself for > 25 years and still waiting to see a bug free, on time and on budget (serious) project [tongue].
 
threesixright said:
JimH2 said:
threesixright said:
Stating the maybe obvious. Did you guys updated (and checked version/)  the firmware on the batteries?

I have updated my BT battery (don’t have a HKC) at least twice in the last months.

Sent from my X using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Exactly what I don't want to be involved with in my tools which I just want to work without futzing.
Click to expand...
Maybe you rather send it in and wait 3-5 days before your tools are back?

Don't want to burst your bubble, these are software issues that come with the territory (not agreeing with that). Days that a hammer was just that, a hammer, are over. Nowadays a hammer send back to your boss how many nails you 'nailed' (LOL) in the last hour. I'd say stay away from anything with a power cord  ;)

Efficient power management, charging, etc. doesn't come easy and for sure not possible with analog circuitry.You need microprocessors and therefor you need software. Software = bugs. You win some, you loose some.

IMO for companies like FT this (bluetooth stuff) is whole new dimensions. Even companies like MS, Apple, etc. are not able to release bug free stuff, I don't have high hopes. Maybe FT outsourced this part, maybe they do it in-house, either way it will bring issues. Doing software development myself for > 25 years and still waiting to see a bug free, on time and on budget (serious) project [tongue].
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I'll clarify...the concept of updating firmware on a battery is absurd. It is fine for the hobbyist, but it's not acceptable for someone who earns a living with their tools. Granted you should have multiple extra batteries especially if on-site, but I'd be more than a little disappointed if it happened to me in the field. Comparing the ability of large companies to release bug-free stuff is not even remotely similar to BT on a battery.
 
I'll clarify...the concept of updating firmware on a battery is absurd. It is fine for the hobbyist, ...

As a hobbyist, I do not want to worry about updating firmware on a battery! I think the green drink is starting to wear off for me.
 
jimbo51 said:
As a hobbyist, I do not want to worry about updating firmware on a battery! I think the green drink is starting to wear off for me.
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Neither do I..however the gauntlet was thrown to the ground about 2 years ago and if you want the advantages of the latest technology you need to take the leap.

If you’re still craven to analog technology, I have 2 like-new, Milwaukee 1/4 sheet sanders in a Milwaukee steel case with bags and hole punches that I’ll be happy to move for $20 for everything. I may even find some extra sandpaper around that I’d throw in.  [smile]

Green drink...red drink...orange drink...yellow drink...blue drink...the ingredients in every one of them have been changed recently and the new flavors may not sit well with their long time imbibers.

Times change...

 
JimH2 said:
I'll clarify...the concept of updating firmware on a battery is absurd. It is fine for the hobbyist, but it's not acceptable for someone who earns a living with their tools. Granted you should have multiple extra batteries especially if on-site, but I'd be more than a little disappointed if it happened to me in the field. Comparing the ability of large companies to release bug-free stuff is not even remotely similar to BT on a battery.
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With all due respect. I think you're missing my point. I'm not trying to say that the software is equally complex as that of i.e. a (smart)phone. I'm saying software brings bugs, a lot of them. The amount of effort that goes into testing is enormous. Could be easily ⅓ of the development costs itself. Big companies don't have this really under control, hence the slew of updates. For FT this is not different.  Yes, I understand that by first thought its crazy to update a freaking battery, but I'm guessing there is a lot some communication going on between the different tools and the battery. And that all needs to be tested. I don't know if FT has h/w revisions, but if so these also need to be tested. Bottom line, testing is expensive and firmware updates are a solution to update software after its released. Sooner or later bugs will slip through. Like it or not.

TBT the FT battery update via the app is not that bad. And if you don't like the BT functionality, go old school, buy a 'normal' battery (which IMO could also be causing issues, since li-ion also needs some special stuff for charging and what not)  ;) As [member=44099]Cheese[/member] says, times are changing (not always for the better...).
 
As a tradesman, I am more than grateful for the changes, advances everything else that goes towards improving technology.
When I look back at what tools I had when starting out, to what I have now, and what’s available to me, I feel privileged.
There will always be glitches, and teething problems with any new tech, there always has been.

Tool technology progression is a great thing, regardless of the brand, anything that makes work easier and more efficient, gets my vote.
 
I’m having a similar issue with my CT MINI1 while cutting with my TS55 req.
2 batteries, both 5.2ah Bluetooth. But the issue is the CT cuts out after 5 seconds and leaves only 1 red light in the instrument panel. The saw will continue to work fine, but the CT needs to be shut off/on to work again.

 
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