Bosch to Compete Against Saw Stop

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http://www.protoolreviews.com/tools/power/corded/saws/bosch-reaxx-table-saw-gts1041a-preview/14811/

Interesting stuff.  Looks like Bosch will have a contractor saw with this technology very soon.

Competition is good.  Kudos to Bosch.

 

[sae]

Hope Bosch has the legal team prepped (frivolous or not).

 

[Paul G]

"A brake then stops the blade—from the sides, not through a destructive mechanism—"

"What’s more, you can reset the GTS1041A system after deployment in just under a minute!"

Sounds very interesting, hope they offer it in a cabinet grade saw to really compete with sawstop.

 

[vkumar]

Hope Bosch has the legal team prepped (frivolous or not).

You gotta be kidding. Bosch has a market capitalization of $ 834 billion. I am sure they have enough lawyers to fight any lawsuits frivolous or not.

Vijay

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Hope Bosch has the legal team prepped (frivolous or not).

I wouldn't be so quick to assume. Bosch got patents on this stuff 5 years ago.

I really like that it doesn't destroy the blade.

 

[Wooden Skye]

With Bosch being a company that understands the licensing of technology and innovation, hopefully they will get licensing deals with the major makers of cabinet saws.

I like the blade isn't destroyed as well. 

The funny part of the review was that after you set off the technology 25 times the saw needs to be taken to service center.  My first thought was maybe you should stop after setting off 2 or 3 times.  I know that on a job site many people could use, but then a better training plan is in order.

 

[GhostFist]

Sounds like a good system

 

[Sean7a]

I'm not so sure the blade won't be destroyed, though I'm not familiar with the details yet.  Flat out, if a blade is spinning at the rpms produced by a table saw and it's stopped, no matter the mechanism, chances are that sucker will be out of true.

 

[Sean7a]

Well there's my answer.  Read the article more clearly.  Seems the blade is stopped once it's retracted, not all in one step a la Sawstop.  Wise.  This means the blade can be stopped at any speed that the manufacturer sees fit, hence not causing damage or affecting the integrity of the blade.

 

[Frank Pellow]

I like it.  I particularly like that the blade is not destroyed.

I've considered purchasing the Saw Stop job-site saw, and still might do so, but I will now wait to see what Bosch has to offer.

I hope that this competition from Bosch will force down Saw Stop prices.  So, even if I go with Saw Stop in the end, I will wait a while to see if their prices come down.

 

[thedude306]

Looks interesting and promising.  My only thought was the tolerances on the mechanism to drop and get out of the way that fast.  That's a lot of force on a set of bearings or what ever it is.  And to be able to reset at the same level of accuracy will be impressive.  I hope to see it as a licensing agreement as well.  Competition is always good.  Can't wait to see the price point.

Oh, and I can't wait to see where else this system show up, with it dropping the mechanism, I think you might see it in router lifts, shapers, jointers etc. 

 

[Sparktrician]

At first glance, I'm very positively impressed by the Bosch offering.  I'm also delighted that there is now some real competition for SawStop.  It's about time!!! 

 

[ali]

Will be following this for sure, SawStop missed a trick never penetrating the overseas market. I hope Bosch release this worldwide

 

[anthonyz]

Would be great if they could figure out a way to make an upgrade kit for cabinet saws. I know this wouldn't be easy, but I'm sure people would love to upgrade their saws if they didn't have to buy a new saw. a $400-$500 upgrade would be easier for people to jump on rather than a $2500+ saw upgrade. Yes, I understand you will save money if you don't cut off a finger, but some people just don't have $2500 to spend if they already have a saw. I like the idea of the Bosch design over the saw stop, but I want a cabinet saw and not a job site saw in my shop.

 

[Frank Pellow]

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I like the idea of the Bosch design over the saw stop, but I want a cabinet saw and not a job site saw in my shop.

I am not at all concerned about the safety of the General 650 cabinet saw in my woodworking shed where I am the one who uses the saw 95% of the time and I can enforce good table saw safety upon any others who use it from time to time.

On the other hand, when I am working at a job site, other people who I have much less control of and who tend to have less experience with power tools, may be using the saw.  So it's a safe3 job site saw that I am looking for.  The type of job-site work I often participate in involves volunteers in a building-bee kind of thing.

 

[Cheese]

Sign me up for this one. I already have a Bosch 4100 and I really like it for the money. So basically this ReaXX is a 4100 with a blade dropping/stopping mechanism and it doesn't destroy the blade. Sweet. [cool]

If this saw lives up to its hype, this will be a game changer for Bosch. Especially if they keep the price to the $900-$1000 range.

 

[mouppe]

Hope Bosch has the legal team prepped (frivolous or not).

You gotta be kidding. Bosch has a market capitalization of $ 834 billion. I am sure they have enough lawyers to fight any lawsuits frivolous or not.

Vijay

Er, I think you're confusing the Indian listed company with the private German company Robert Bosch Gmbh which makes tools, auto parts, home appliances etc. At around 60 rupees to the dollar, that would make the market cap of the company you quoted around US$13 billion, which makes a little more sense rather than it being the largest company in the world!

[smile]

 

[Birdhunter]

It is good that other vendors are getting into the safety market. Competition seems to enhance products.

I now own a Sawstop Industrial saw that replaced a very nice old Delta Unisaw that I owned for over 20 years. The Sawstop safety feature was the thing that got me interested in replacing the Unisaw. My dealer had Powermatic, General, and other new saws that I examined closely before settling on the Sawstop.

To my eyes, the fit, finish, engineering, and build quality of the Sawstop was far better than its competitors. After owning the Sawstop for 18 months, I remain impressed with the machine.

I say all this to emphasize that Sawstop's competitors will have to compete on not just the safety feature, but on all aspects of the machine.

 

[vkumar]

Still $ 13 billion is not small potatoes.

Hope Bosch has the legal team prepped (frivolous or not).

You gotta be kidding. Bosch has a market capitalization of $ 834 billion. I am sure they have enough lawyers to fight any lawsuits frivolous or not.

Vijay

Er, I think you're confusing the Indian listed company with the private German company Robert Bosch Gmbh which makes tools, auto parts, home appliances etc. At around 60 rupees to the dollar, that would make the market cap of the company you quoted around US$13 billion, which makes a little more sense rather than it being the largest company in the world!

[smile]

 

[Sean7a]

Sign me up for this one. I already have a Bosch 4100 and I really like it for the money. So basically this ReaXX is a 4100 with a blade dropping/stopping mechanism and it doesn't destroy the blade. Sweet. [cool]

If this saw lives up to its hype, this will be a game changer for Bosch. Especially if they keep the price to the $900-$1000 range.

Agreed, would be fantastic to see them retrofit this into the 4100 or similar model.  The new DeWalt saws have the 4100 beat in a few fit 'n finish, ergonomics and modernity areas, but this would be a game changer.