Cabinet Door width formula

[edanielvijay]

Hi All,
I understand the cabinet door height should be the same in the increments of 32 mm for LR32 System. How about the width. Is there any formula to calculate the width of the door. Please see the picture attached. If I m planning to build this with the shared panels with 19mm material, now what should be the door width so that they all look uniform with the same reveals end-end.

I m planning to go with Partial Overlay and my cabinet inside width is 448 mm (around 18 inches) and height is around 7 feet. I wanted 3 doors and what should be my width of the door so that the reveals are uniform across these 3 doors.

Please advise.

Thanks,
Danny

 

[Brice Burrell]

Well, you can make the reveal can be almost whatever you want.  3-4 mm is common.  Once you have your reveal decided on it's a matter of simple math.  Total width of cabinet - 4 reveals / 3 = door width.  Then you need to figure out right hardware pieces you'll need to pull of the corrects reveal spacing.

 

[edanielvijay]

Thanks Bruce.

I am planning to put the Blum hinges. I downloaded the Cliptop blumotion hinges for panel construction. I selected the hinge category as 110 degree and the overlay as partial overlay. Now, it allows me to enter the partial door overlay as only 8.5 mm, which results in a reveal of 10.5 mm. Now, should I need to adjust the boring distance in each door to get a uniform reveal across.

How can I make the 10.5 mm reveal in the outer door as 4 mm.

http://www.blum.com/us/en/02/10/30/index.php

 

[edanielvijay]

Or should I have to select Full overlay instead of partial overlay?

 

[Davej]

You need full overlay hinges  and that will then give you the option of keeping your reveals as close as you need  ,if you alter the distance of the hinge hole with the partial overlay hinge you wont be able to oen the doors as they will bind on the front edge of your frame , thats if you can even get them on . hope this helps , Dave

 

[ccarrolladams]

Design of cabinets is art as well as science.

Hundreds of books have been written on the subject of interpreting System 32. Many other books explain how to use the data provided by Blum and other hardware manufacturers.

 

[tjbnwi]

3mm spacing, Blum half cranked hinges if you are using a single dividing panel. If your using twin panels, you can use full overlay hinges.

Tom

 

[awil66]

Who's Bruce? [big grin]

 

[peter halle]

Who's Bruce? [big grin]

Bruce is Brice's alter personality created by the proximity of the letters U and I on a keyboard.  They really are quite similar but one is a little wider than the other.  Both are stand up guys always willing to add a vowel or some advice.

Peter

 

[mastercabman]

Full overlay clip-on. That should yield 3mm reveal.

Maybe i did not understand
How many doors going across?
If you are doing 3 then you re going to need different hinges for the middle part and maybe one side depending on where it is hinged

 

[edanielvijay]

3 doors

 

[edanielvijay]

Sorry Brice...its my bad. Excuse my typo

 

[mastercabman]

Looking at my book for 120* clip blum hinges
You will need full overlay for the 2 doors on each side if they are hinged on the outside panels
For the middle door you will need partial overlay or if you hinge 2doors with a middle panel you will need twin overlay( hinged back to back)

 

[edanielvijay]

Yep! thats what I was exactly thinking. Same hinge will not work for all of them. Or else I need to put the middle one with a Height plate.

 

[mastercabman]

Yep! thats what I was exactly thinking. Same hinge will not work for all of them. Or else I need to put the middle one with a Height plate.

I would estimate about 3-4mm between doors.
Don't forget those hinges has a good adjustment travel.So if you re off a little,you can make it up.
Good luck with your project.

 

[edanielvijay]

Thanks!! I also see they are different mounting plates like Straight one-piece, Straight two-piece, Cam adjustable (wing/inline). What are the differences between them?

 

[mastercabman]

Thanks!! I also see they are different mounting plates like Straight one-piece, Straight two-piece, Cam adjustable (wing/inline). What are the differences between them?

Just the way they mount and adjust.
For example,the 2 piece has a screw to adjust the height without unscrewing the hinge from the cabinet.
I think Wing is the type of hinges that has top and bottom mounting screw wings
The inline is for cabinets with horizontal screw holes.

If you are using the 32mm system stick with the 1 or 2 pcs wing  with or without EXPANDO(plastic dowel)

 

[tjbnwi]

These for the single panel full overlay;

http://woodworker.com/107d-ho-hinge-cliptop-screw-on-mssu-134-273.asp?search=Blum&searchmode=2

These for the end cabs or if you use 2 panels between the cabs;

http://woodworker.com/107d-fo-hinge-cliptop-screw-on-mssu-134-240.asp?search=Blum&searchmode=2

Tom

 

[Notorious T.O.D.]

Might I suggest that it is also useful to layout a story stick to double check your measurements and calculations until you get some experience and confidence in your methods.  Better to spend a few minutes to make a story stick than to end up wrong and waste valuable material.

Best,
Todd

 

[fshanno]

I'd have a one piece top and a one piece deck.  That way if you plan on an inset back it could also be one piece.  Might make the whole deal easier.