Canadian Home Workshop Show

[Dan Clermont]

Clermont's Ultimate Tool Supply will be at the Canadian Home WorkShop Show Feb 27 to March 1. We will have Festool's on site for sale and will be bringing along several demo tools as well so people can see them first hand

We will be in booth 818

Feel free to stop by and introduce yourself

Thanks
Dan Clermont

 

[Red Lion]

EXCELLENT! I will be there.

 

[Red Lion]

Is that the "Canadian Home Workshop Show" at the International Centre? If you have an official website where I can buy tickets that would be great - I cant seem to find one for some reason.

 

[Dan Clermont]

Yes

Canadian Home Workshop Show

Dan Clermont

 

[Red Lion]

You can convince me to buy a CT22 - no problem.

 

[Dan Clermont]

You can convince me to buy a CT22 - no problem.

We'll have them there. Save some money if you buy them as part of a package though 

Dan Clermont

 

[Red Lion]

I'm thinking about grabbing a sander with the ct 22. I'm caught between a RO 150 or a ETS 150/5. I'm focusing on doing cabinet work, not too much rough work. Acetool does this package - Festool P2571541 Package Deal ETS 150/5 Sander + CT 22 Vacuum - for $739 (usd). What do you think? Rotex vs. ETS?

 

[wnagle]

I have both the rotex and the ETS 150/3.  I use the ETS 150/3 all of the time.  It's my go to sander almost all of the time.

 

[Red Lion]

I have both the rotex and the ETS 150/3.  I use the ETS 150/3 all of the time.  It's my go to sander almost all of the time.

Thanks a bunch! I'm grabbing the ETS 150/5 with the CT22

 

[Dan Clermont]

I'm thinking about grabbing a sander with the ct 22. I'm caught between a RO 150 or a ETS 150/5. I'm focusing on doing cabinet work, not too much rough work. Acetool does this package - Festool P2571541 Package Deal ETS 150/5 Sander + CT 22 Vacuum - for $739 (usd). What do you think? Rotex vs. ETS?

I think you should try them both out at the show and decide. The ETS is very quiet, smooth and a great finishing sander. The Rotex is a beast which will do everything including polishing. Just like in the US, we have a 30 day money back guarantee.

I'd have to say that it is a draw when it comes to customers trying to decide betweent he Rotex and ETS Sanders.

Guess we better make sure we bring up some ETS 150/5's.

Dan Clermont

 

[Jesus Aleman]

Dan,  are any of the new tools for 2009 going to be in display?

 

[Dave Ronyak]

I'm thinking about grabbing a sander with the ct 22. I'm caught between a RO 150 or a ETS 150/5. I'm focusing on doing cabinet work, not too much rough work. Acetool does this package - Festool P2571541 Package Deal ETS 150/5 Sander + CT 22 Vacuum - for $739 (usd). What do you think? Rotex vs. ETS?

Red Lion,

I have met Dan C. and trust that he will do his best to steer you right.

I have several Festool sanders including an RO 125, ETS 125, LS 130, Deltex 93 and ETS 150/3.  Additionally, I have several Bosch sanders (4 x24 belt, 5 inch variable speed RO, Vario narrow belt, and 1/4 sheet RO pad), and some Milwaukee and Craftsman sanders.  Why so many?  I hate sanding, but know sanding is a very important part of achieving a good finish on a cabinet or piece of furniture for people like myself who are not proficient with use of hand planes and scrapers.

My recommendation is to think ahead as to what sanders will fill out your needs not only today but later.  If you are certain that your only or primary use will be cabinet work and that you are not going to invest in another sander, by all means go ahead with your selection of an ETS 150/5.  But if you plan to do other work, and if you want the best finish possible, consider making that and ETS 150/3 instead.  I find it plenty aggressive enough for most purposes given the many types and grits of abrasives that are available.  My RO 125 was my first Festool sander purchase; I used it extensively in removing a lot of old paint, varnish and cracked plaster, but since getting my ETS 125 and ETS 150/3, I don't need the RO 125 for woodworking as much now since the ETS sanders are much easier to control when trying to achieve a fine finish, especially on veneered plywood without sanding through.  But the RO 125 is unsurpassed when used to polish and wax my cars.  If you are making cabinetry and furniture, I recommend you also consider and LS 130.  It is also very easy to control, especially when delicate sanding is needed as when matching an glued on edge to a sheet of veneered plywood, and for final sanding with the grain direction, including inside corners, and for quickly softening edges without risk of tearout.

Dave R.

 

[Dan Clermont]

Dan,  are any of the new tools for 2009 going to be in display?

Well, if I told you everything then their wouldn't be any surprises  ;D

Dan Clermont

 

[Dan Clermont]

I'm thinking about grabbing a sander with the ct 22. I'm caught between a RO 150 or a ETS 150/5. I'm focusing on doing cabinet work, not too much rough work. Acetool does this package - Festool P2571541 Package Deal ETS 150/5 Sander + CT 22 Vacuum - for $739 (usd). What do you think? Rotex vs. ETS?

Red Lion,

I have met Dan C. and trust that he will do his best to steer you right.

I have several Festool sanders including an RO 125, ETS 125, LS 130, Deltex 93 and ETS 150/3.  Additionally, I have several Bosch sanders (4 x24 belt, 5 inch variable speed RO, Vario narrow belt, and 1/4 sheet RO pad), and some Milwaukee and Craftsman sanders.   Why so many?  I hate sanding, but know sanding is a very important part of achieving a good finish on a cabinet or piece of furniture for people like myself who are not proficient with use of hand planes and scrapers.

My recommendation is to think ahead as to what sanders will fill out your needs not only today but later.  If you are certain that your only or primary use will be cabinet work and that you are not going to invest in another sander, by all means go ahead with your selection of an ETS 150/5.  But if you plan to do other work, and if you want the best finish possible, consider making that and ETS 150/3 instead.   I find it plenty aggressive enough for most purposes given the many types and grits of abrasives that are available.  My RO 125 was my first Festool sander purchase; I used it extensively in removing a lot of old paint, varnish and cracked plaster, but since getting my ETS 125 and ETS 150/3, I don't need the RO 125 for woodworking as much now since the ETS sanders are much easier to control when trying to achieve a fine finish, especially on veneered plywood without sanding through.  But the RO 125 is unsurpassed when used to polish and wax my cars.  If you are making cabinetry and furniture, I recommend you also consider and LS 130.  It is also very easy to control, especially when delicate sanding is needed as when matching an glued on edge to a sheet of veneered plywood, and for final sanding with the grain direction, including inside corners, and for quickly softening edges without risk of tearout.

Dave R.

My honest opinion is to either go with an ETS 150/3 or the RO 150. The ETS 150/5 obviously has a 5mm random orbit and would be considered to be more aggressive then the ETS 150/3 but the ETS series really is not designed for aggressiveness anyhow so I'd go with a 150/3 or a RO 150 FEQ depending on whether or not you want to have the swiss army knife of sanders (RO 150 - > Aggressive Sanding, finish sanding and polishing) or just a nice, quiet low vibration sander for finish work.

Dan Clermont

 

[Red Lion]

Thanks all for your insights...

 

[Red Lion]

This would be my first sander. I've had extensive experience with an employers Rotex 150. I've used it on plywood cabinets and I also sanded the crap out of a custom counter built from exposed plywood end-grain. It was very powerful and sometimes it wanted to kick away from my grip. Very nice feeling to it.

I haven't used any of the ETS sanders.

I'll do more research and give 'em a try at the show. An all in one sander may be a smarter purchase for me... dunno what to do guys.

Thanks for your replies,

Matt

 

[EcoFurniture]

So? How was the show? Any pictures?

 

[Red Lion]

It starts this Friday! Very exciting.... but sorry Dan, I won't be able to afford the ct22 package with the ETS 150/3. I need to find another job

Matt

I'll stop by to say hello.

 

[Dan Clermont]

It starts this Friday! Very exciting.... but sorry Dan, I won't be able to afford the ct22 package with the ETS 150/3. I need to find another job

Matt

I'll stop by to say hello.

Oh NO!!!

Sorry to hear about the job

Looking Forward to meeting you

Dan Clermont

 

[Frank Pellow]

The show is over and now I have to resume my "normal" life.  I would like to thank the many many folks who stopped to say hello to me.  I had no idea that so many people knew me -mostly through my participation in the various woodworking forums.

Here are a few pictures of the event.

First, this is what I found when I arrived in the hall where then event was to be held early on Thursday morning:
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Here is the booth that Dan and I set up taken about 8 on Thursday evening:
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Here I am manning the booth just before the show opened for the third and final day this morning:
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Steve and Konrad  bought some tools this afternoon and then were kind enough to stay and help Dan and I pack up:
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Unfortunately, too many tools are going back to Dan's place in British Columbia.  But, I expect that many of these same tools will find their way back to a home in Ontario.

The show is over and Dan and I have to say goodbye:
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Dan, it was great to finally meet you in person and I very much enjoyed working with you over the last four days.