Carvex PSC 400 li 18v

[jmbfestool]

Ill Explain later!  I gotta go out!  Now!   Any way here is a quick vid   14.4 V   VS  18V   using Carvex

Carvex batteries 14.4 VS 18V

JMB

 

[GhostFist]

Bang on! that answers a lot of questions that aren't covered in reviews. Cheers JMB. I'd go with a corded version myself if it wasn't cancelled here

 

[woodguy7]

JMB, you must be the king of video testing, well after Paul of course 

Nice work.

 

[tiralie]

Ill Explain later!  I gotta go out!  Now!   Any way here is a quick vid   14.4 V   VS  18V   using Carvex

Thanks JMB!
In that video it looks like you are cutting (with the jigsaw) through the top of the saw horse that the counter top is sitting on.
Are you? What kind of saw horses are those?
Tim

 

[jmbfestool]

Im BACK!

Any way I dont kno if any one noticed but the first lot of cuts I did I was using the 14.4v  well towards the end the last full cut and the remaining half cut the jigsaw was kinda playing up like it didnt have enough power but then it did then eventually it stopped.    Well the last full cut and half cut with the 18V it didnt do that it carried on full power right till it stopped.    I have never noticed this before with the 14.4 before so I dont kno if it was just a clitch or der is something wrong with the 14.4v  im going to give it a full charge again and test it again to see cus it kinda annoyed me why it did that.

The 14.4v did 6 full cuts and half which was 530mm long.    

The 18V did 8 full cuts and 400mm  

The worktop was 960mm long

So the 14.4v did 6290mm

And the 18v did 8080mm  

so its about 25 -30% increase run time which aint bad.

so for me 8 meters on a 40mm is more than plenty on 1 battery I cant see me ever needing to cut that much work top with a jigsaw because if I did the TS55 would be a better tool for the job any way.

Cutting 18mm with the carvex lasts much longer and no I aint testing it cus ill be doing alot of cuts lol!

GhostFist just curious to what answers this video gave you.  

Cheers

JMB

 

[jmbfestool]

Ill Explain later!  I gotta go out!  Now!   Any way here is a quick vid   14.4 V   VS  18V   using Carvex

Thanks JMB!
In that video it looks like you are cutting (with the jigsaw) through the top of the saw horse that the counter top is sitting on.
Are you? What kind of saw horses are those?
Tim

Well I didnt set my self up properly I have 2x2 under the work top at first and yes in the video it looks like im going to hit the trestles but im 2 inch away from the trestles but I dont know if you can see but the work top was sliding slowly through the vibrations so after I finished the first cut I removed the 2x2 and sat the work top directly onto the trestles thinking I could hold the work top in place and just have it over hanging but it still on sliding slowly so in the second part of the video where I starting cutting with the 18V I decided to clamp the worktop to the trestles and give it a good over hang so I can just keep on cutting till the battery went dead.

The trestles are draper I got 4 of them they can be used and working platform but also as scaffold for standing on and plastic ones your not supposed to use for standing on.

http://www.ccw-tools.com/product.asp?P_ID=19662&af=1792

I like them as they are solid I dont normal have them for a quick on and off job I use my MFT but if its job im working on for a bit I set them up for a more permanent working area or if im working out side cus rain wont damage them unlike the MFT.

JMB

 

[jmbfestool]

JMB, you must be the king of video testing, well after Paul of course 

Nice work.

[cool]
Oh yeah!    Well the carvex run time test was as much for me as for any one else here.  I wanted to know for my self how much extra run time you actually got with the 18V vs the 14.4V and now I know  [big grin]

 

[Roadkilled]

Thanks a lot for that JMB. Fantastic review for everyone interested in the cordless carvex. Thank you

 

[neth27]

I have the same trestles, but i have some 2x1 fixed to the top of each one. Just in case i do cut a little to deep with a circular saw  [big grin]

John

 

[jmbfestool]

Thanks a lot for that JMB. Fantastic review for everyone interested in the cordless carvex. Thank you

No props  [big grin]

 

[jmbfestool]

I have the same trestles, but i have some 3x1 fixed to the top of each one. Just in case i do cut a little to deep with a circular saw  [big grin]

John

I was going to do the same thing just never got round to do it yet I was thinking also to increase the width of the trestles with the wood im going to attached to it because I do think they are a little narrow BUT im having second thought because being a little narrow helps in small places sooooo I was thinking of having some timber  I can have stored in my van which are made so I can quickly attach certain lengths and ones with notches to take 4x2 to bride the gap between the trestles.    I dont kno yet I have a few idea lol

JMB

 

[GhostFist]

You can write about performance but seeing it is something different altogether. While the performance is impressive even with the 14.4 batteries, I've spent full days doing nothing but managing the jigsaw. Keep in mind I do weirdo koo koo bananas set building for film and tv mainly so my demands are different than yours.

 

[jmbfestool]

You can write about performance but seeing it is something different altogether. While the performance is impressive even with the 14.4 batteries, I've spent full days doing nothing but managing the jigsaw. Keep in mind I do weirdo koo koo bananas set building for film and tv mainly so my demands are different than yours.

YEs very true!    Thats y I like doing videos I struggle to get my point across some times so I just do a video instead better than words!  Plus alot of people who do videos just talk and do a little demo maybe but I like to compare or show its performance which to me when im looking at video is very helpful for deciding if to buy the tool or not.  Im never bios I always do a fair test both them batteries where FULLY charged and where kept together for a few hours so they where at the same temperature.  The only thing which might be a little unfair would be the jigsaw was a little warm when I after draining the 14.4 but like I mentioned in the video I did give it some time to cool before I started the second stage. 

I know people have different demands for tools for me the cordless is enough and I have no use of a corded version. Like you said it is impressive I have a 18V M range Milwaukee jigsaw im going to give that a test to see how far that goes out of curiosity to compare Milwaukee VS Festool.

JMB

 

[Jesse Cloud]

Thanks JMB - great vid.  BTW, you were working very fast in the middle parts - don't let your customer see it or that's what they will expect! [wink] [big grin]

 

[GhostFist]

That's a vid i'd like to see J! infact I'd really want to see more straight up head to head vids. You never get a true comparison until you use the tool yourself but this is closest to that. That vid you did with the new kapex stand, simple set up band make your cut (fake) you bloody well jump up on the thing, shows me it's pretty damn sturdy. Love to see those sort of things.

 

[tiralie]

The trestles are draper I got 4 of them they can be used and working platform but also as scaffold for standing on and plastic ones your not supposed to use for standing on.

JMB:
Thanks for this and the demo. I am seriously questioning my preference for a corded version of the Carvex when it's released here.
Tim

 

[Dan T]

I only had 1 attempt as that was the only decent size piece I had!  So I couldnt really do a trial run first!  

Any way I already marked out for the cut out for a hob (the tile is the hob lol)  Normally I use masking tape and mark with a pencil line but I couldnt find any so I used the edge of some normal tape for my cut out!

I know you can see alot of dust kicking out doing the bolt holes so you might think why use an extractor!  Well the dust is even worse and it helps cutting out the bolts as it keeps it clear so you can run round with out any dust trapping you which I find happens when your go to fast with no extraction ALSO  them bolt plates have hex screws and if you dont use extraction they get full of dust and when you try to use a screw diver to loosen them you cant because its full of compact dust which you then have the scrape out first.  So using extraction prevents this as you can see I moved one of the plates along easily with out unclamping.   Also im pretty sure the blade life is ALOT better when using extraction properly keeps it cooler and keeping the dust away makes it alot easier for the cutter to cut!  

Oh and its not a new blade I have used this blade for 3 joints and 18 bolt holes!  So still not doing to bad!

I have ordered another plate as I often do 3 bolts so makes sense have 3 plates but the jig only comes with 2!   Im just waiting to buy a tool I want and my dealer will send me the plate with it save post and packaging!

I was rushing a little jigsawing and made me bounce OOPS lol  

I fast forward some parts bit boring watching me clamping stuff lol

Any way next video is seeing how long the 18V and 14.4V batterie run time is!

Worktop using festool

Hi  JMB

is the that a festool worktop jig you are using in the vid ?

How does it compare to a standard jig ?  any advantages ?

 

[jmbfestool]

Hi Dan

Yes it is.   I used only festool tools in that video cutting work top.

Festool MFT
Festool Quick clamps
Festool Standard clamps
Festool CT26
Festool Carvex
Festool TS55
Festool worktop Jig

Yes I love the Jig LOADS better than the standard jig I think.  Wondering when some one might ask about the jig
This is the set I bought http://www.festool.co.uk/products/accessories/pages/detail.aspx?pid=712256&name=routing-templates-aps-900-mfs-hw-d14-hw-wp

1. Your clamps are always out of the way of your router as you can see they go underneath.

2. You can keep your jig clamped down and just loosen the screws to slide the jig across or the bolt plates and then tighten.  This works great for when you cant have your bolts evenly spaced due to the fact you cant get access to them once the work top is fitted with a normal work top jig you would have to release the clamps to move the jig across.  

3. You can add more bolt plates this is good because you can have them spaced how you want than you just mark one line on both worktops and align on bolt plate and the other two will be in the same place.   With a standard jig you often have to move the jig once or twice after you routed the the first bolt hole

4. The jig can router work tops like 1 meter wide or even more if you was to get a longer bar.  Like I said you can clamp the jig down and move all parts while its still clamped so if your work top is 800 wide this jig is for a 600 you can move it across with out needing to realign everything.

One thing I hate about jig is its made for a 600 work top well most work tops I do are 615 -618 well the jig leaves a 4mm round on the end where its starts to curve again this aint a problem as it happens to the other worktop so they both match plus you often tile or have upstand in a kitchen which covers it.

I love the jig if you have it set up I how have it in the video so the long bar in the middle and the two smaller bars on either side both on the same end this allows you to do left and right side joints and from both sides of the work top (top and bottom) with out needed to adjust anything.    

When I first had the jig I had it set up so it would only work on one side I would have to adjust everytime and I hated the jig but I soon noticed if I did some adjustments I would be able to leave the jig all together as one and just flip it round like you do with a standard jig.   It didnt come with any instructions how to set it up so was kinda trial and error.

I have used a few of my mates jigs but its the clamping bit which annoyed me plus they all seem to use quick clamps to fix the jigs down well they are large and you have to put them on a certain way and certain place other wise they get in the way of the router plus I think quick clamps just feel like they are not holding tight enough in my opinion.  The festool clamps as you properly know hold really well you wont get any movement with them.

jmb

 

[woodguy7]

JMB,
I know this is like a mini review but could you do a propper review of that set up in a separate thread.  I am quite interested in that jig & would like to see it in more detail.  I must say i don't like the fact it only does 600mm tops.  Like you said, most are 616mm.

Cheers.

 

[jmbfestool]

JMB,
I know this is like a mini review but could you do a propper review of that set up in a separate thread.  I am quite interested in that jig & would like to see it in more detail.  I must say i don't like the fact it only does 600mm tops.  Like you said, most are 616mm.

Cheers.

Ok Ok lol

Like I said though it does do the 615 but its not made for 615  really but it does do wider aswell by sliding the actually jig along but leaving everything clamped.

JMB