CDD 12 FX
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jonny round boy
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Andrew,
Welcome to the forum!
I'm sure it's possible to get what you're looking for - have you asked your Festool dealer? If you don't have a local dealer, there are lots of online dealers who could help. If you post your location, I'm sure that someone will be able to help further.
JRB
Welcome to the forum!
I'm sure it's possible to get what you're looking for - have you asked your Festool dealer? If you don't have a local dealer, there are lots of online dealers who could help. If you post your location, I'm sure that someone will be able to help further.
JRB
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Andrew,
Here is a link to the 12 volt CDD battery. Order no. 488438 (same order no. everywhere in the world).
http://festoolusa.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=0&prodid=488438
Go here to find a dealer in the US (if you are in the US): http://www.festoolusa.com/dealers
Every dealer can order the battery for you.
Regards,
Christian
Here is a link to the 12 volt CDD battery. Order no. 488438 (same order no. everywhere in the world).
http://festoolusa.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=0&prodid=488438
Go here to find a dealer in the US (if you are in the US): http://www.festoolusa.com/dealers
Every dealer can order the battery for you.
Regards,
Christian
How embarrassingly easy and obvious -- although in my defense I did search for the part number printed on the battery on the Festool site and came up blank. I promise my next post will be more challenging.
Thanks Johnny and Christian.
By the way, I'm in Seattle so it looks like Festool Supply is right up the road -- I think the odds of me getting away with just a replacement battery are slim though.
Cheers!
Thanks Johnny and Christian.
By the way, I'm in Seattle so it looks like Festool Supply is right up the road -- I think the odds of me getting away with just a replacement battery are slim though.
Cheers!
Although this is an old post, I'd like to find something better than $120 for a horribly outdated weak NiCad for an otherwise perfectly good drill. My CDD 12 FX has been on the wane for awhile, and a Li ion battery would make it new again. Am I to just junk a Festool because the batteries are dead? I would need 2, that's $242 for batteries that might last several years. [mad]
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Festool offers the batteries as you apparently have seen in this thread.
An alternative to buying the batteries from Festool is to have them rebuilt at a place like Batteries Plus. I mention them because there's one about a mile from me. It's your call which would be a better value. I think there are others on this Forum with experience of those options that can attest to their relative values.
Tom
An alternative to buying the batteries from Festool is to have them rebuilt at a place like Batteries Plus. I mention them because there's one about a mile from me. It's your call which would be a better value. I think there are others on this Forum with experience of those options that can attest to their relative values.
Tom
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It's ok, you can buy a new drill now.
I don't want a new drill, mine is in perfectly good shape except for expiring batteries. A mfg as well respected as Festool should offer a better alternative at a reasonable price for a 'consumable' item like the batteries.
Batteries plus doesn't have Festool listed. Cordless Renovations does but that is not what I was asking for. I would like Li ion from Festool of an aftermarket supplier.
I am not a 'newbie' woodworker but a cabinet maker who appreciates fine tools but not tools that have such a 'finite' life at such an expense. NiCad is passe technoligy. I have Bosh Li Ion for years now and they're still just as strong as new. My Festool just faded away.
Batteries plus doesn't have Festool listed. Cordless Renovations does but that is not what I was asking for. I would like Li ion from Festool of an aftermarket supplier.
I am not a 'newbie' woodworker but a cabinet maker who appreciates fine tools but not tools that have such a 'finite' life at such an expense. NiCad is passe technoligy. I have Bosh Li Ion for years now and they're still just as strong as new. My Festool just faded away.
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I understand your frustration, I feel your pain. The first time I tried to buy batteries for a set of tools that only cost about $120 (w/ 2 batteries) and was told it would cost over $100 just to rebuild the batteries, I couldn't believe it. That was a Craftsman drill with a light, charger, and 2 batteries. I actually kind of liked it. I tossed it and bought another set on sale for about $20 more than the batteries for the old one.
I have since found that I can do far more things, far better with a Festool drill than I ever could with either or both of those drills. Each new drill also gets better - that is the reality of the technology involved. You didn't mention if you have the right angle or eccentric chucks but they make a huge difference in the utility of a Festool drill.
I don't think Li-ion technology is typically, if ever, backward compatible. What I mean is that you shouldn't take a machine that was designed to use NiCD or NiMH batteries and simply bolt on a Li-ion battery.
Unless I'm completely confused, Li-ion batteries require a feedback loop with the usage mechanism and the charging source. There are different charging cycle technologies but they all require feedback from the battery. There are also requirements on the usage side (the tool) and the simplest that I know of is to stop the tool when the battery drains to a certain extent.
It isn't practical to produce Li-ion batteries for a NiCD tool. The worst that could happen is fire, Li-ion batteries have been known to (sort of) spontaneously flame. It's actually predictable but appears spontaneous and mysterious... The more likely scenario is that you will have a single or very few cycle battery.
Tom
I have since found that I can do far more things, far better with a Festool drill than I ever could with either or both of those drills. Each new drill also gets better - that is the reality of the technology involved. You didn't mention if you have the right angle or eccentric chucks but they make a huge difference in the utility of a Festool drill.
I don't think Li-ion technology is typically, if ever, backward compatible. What I mean is that you shouldn't take a machine that was designed to use NiCD or NiMH batteries and simply bolt on a Li-ion battery.
Unless I'm completely confused, Li-ion batteries require a feedback loop with the usage mechanism and the charging source. There are different charging cycle technologies but they all require feedback from the battery. There are also requirements on the usage side (the tool) and the simplest that I know of is to stop the tool when the battery drains to a certain extent.
It isn't practical to produce Li-ion batteries for a NiCD tool. The worst that could happen is fire, Li-ion batteries have been known to (sort of) spontaneously flame. It's actually predictable but appears spontaneous and mysterious... The more likely scenario is that you will have a single or very few cycle battery.
Tom
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Tom's right, you can't simply attach a Li-Ion battery to a tool that was designed for Ni-Cads.
I have a full set of Makita 12V Ni-Cad tools. It'd be great if I could get Li-Ion batteries for them, but it's not possible, and it isn't going to happen. This issue isn't unique to Festool.
You only have the 2 options already mentioned; buy the Festool Ni-Cads, or have yours re-built. If you go for the latter, you could have them upgraded to Ni-MH. That at least is technically possible.
I have a full set of Makita 12V Ni-Cad tools. It'd be great if I could get Li-Ion batteries for them, but it's not possible, and it isn't going to happen. This issue isn't unique to Festool.
You only have the 2 options already mentioned; buy the Festool Ni-Cads, or have yours re-built. If you go for the latter, you could have them upgraded to Ni-MH. That at least is technically possible.
AFAIK, it's a trick only DeWalt has pulled off; their current 18v li-ion batteries are backwards compatible with all their older drills - albeit at a price that pretty much makes it impractical...
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/62512/Power-Tools/Batteries-Chargers/DeWalt-DC9180-XJ-Li-Ion-18V-Battery-Pack?cm_mmc=GoogleBase-_-Datafeed-_-Power%20Tools-_-DeWalt%20DC9180-XJ%20Li-Ion%2018V%20Battery%20Pack
I mean, you'd have to really love that old drill to spend that kind of money on batteries...
Pete
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/62512/Power-Tools/Batteries-Chargers/DeWalt-DC9180-XJ-Li-Ion-18V-Battery-Pack?cm_mmc=GoogleBase-_-Datafeed-_-Power%20Tools-_-DeWalt%20DC9180-XJ%20Li-Ion%2018V%20Battery%20Pack
I mean, you'd have to really love that old drill to spend that kind of money on batteries...
Pete
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Well then buy new battery's.
All cordless tool battery's are expensive.
You want them to give you some just because you like the drill and it is older and you don't want to replace it?
All cordless tool battery's are expensive.
You want them to give you some just because you like the drill and it is older and you don't want to replace it?
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fdengel said:
Right you are!
For a little more than a year, I have been quite happily [big grin] using my old 18V Ryobi impact driver with one of their new nicad battereis. The driver works great and the battery seems to last a very long time (and takes little time to recharge).
Backward compatibility is nice but not always possible. Nikon did it with their lenses, Canon didn't. I have Nikon so I like that, but Canon now offers some things Nikon cannot and they have eroded Nikon's position at the top dramatically. Even though there are a lot of Canon lenses out there that folks spent a lot of money on and cannot use with the new cameras. In reality, many old Nikon lenses have been surpassed by better optics as well, so I am not sure Nikon really did themselves or their customers any favors. There is no simple answer to this. We all deal with it every time we upgrade our computers and we just accept that as a fact of life. Costs more than a Festool drill and we probably do it more often.
Should a cordless drill, even a Festool, be any different? I think your CDD must be close to 8/10 years old now. Think of it this way. You probably would have spent as much on cheaper drills over that time to keep a useable one in your shop. If you have the attachments they are still part of the system that you won't need to replace.
We have a saying where I work, "If Henry Ford would have thought of it, he would have made the Taurus as his first model."
Should a cordless drill, even a Festool, be any different? I think your CDD must be close to 8/10 years old now. Think of it this way. You probably would have spent as much on cheaper drills over that time to keep a useable one in your shop. If you have the attachments they are still part of the system that you won't need to replace.
We have a saying where I work, "If Henry Ford would have thought of it, he would have made the Taurus as his first model."
