Centrotec 09 bit set

[tom.smith]

Just wondering if we were going to be getting the new 09 bit set this side of the pond or not. I think I want one. Or more correctly, I think I want one until I see the price, anyway. 

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Tom,

I don't see that you have your location set in your profile but I assume you're in the US or Canada.  The answer is, based on what I know, that we will not have  Centrotec set before the end of the year.  I do know that there have been discussions to work out details for a new Centrotec set offering in 2010 but I don't have a time frame or specifics on pricing or contents.  Members are encouraged, as always, to provide a wish list or ideas on their ideal contents for such a set.  Your feedback is always welcomed and appreciated and often times influences our decisions.

Thanks.

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Ok then. 8)

I want the bit set thingy, a planex, one of those fancy guide rail bags, and a CMS.

They can be sent to me cod, thats fine ;D ;D

 

[tom.smith]

Okay Shane, thanks for the info. I keep holding off buying bits, thinking this will be coming any day now. Looks like I'm going to have to continue making-do for a little while longer. Sigh...

 

[rnt80]

Tom, I'm with you on this one.  I was really hoping for the new centrotec set to be here by now.  I picked up a C12 less than a year ago and love it but I haven't purchased any bits for it thinking that the new set would be released here at any moment.
It's nice to know that Festool is willing to listen to our input regarding what we'd like to see included.  Personally I would like to see all the sizes of drill bits (in multiples) and brad point bits that Festool currently offers.  I would also like all of the countersink bits and the centering bits included.  I'm not sure I'd have much use for an extra centrotec chuck or two.  The bit holders and extension would come in handy, as would the usual assortment of phillips bits (I won't bring up the square drive thing).
If it's not too much to ask......hurry up!!!!  At this point I'm really tired of my hodge podge mix of bits that I've compiled.  I've purposely bought cheaper stuff in anticipation of getting the centrotec assortment when it was released.  I'm tired of using junk.

 

[clev1066]

The lack of a good Centrotec set has probably led more to me holding out on a Festool drill set than anything else.

 

[tallgrass]

as usual.. can't get the goods.....good old refusal to load a container and sell stuff. :-[ drives me nuts.i lie the conversation....." i want to buy your stuff......no we will not sell it to you, we make enough money and want you to look around and buy some other companies' stuff."

 

[PeterK]

Since there are individual split point drill bits for sale now, why doesn't Festool at least offer them as a set like the brad points?

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

So.... Given the choice, would you rather have some (probably metric version) Centrotec Set sooner or wait for a possible imperial version later?

Edit: Added a poll to make it easy to consolidate the votes.

 

[Holzhacker]

Put out a useful and affordable Centrotec set and building will buy it.
So here are my suggestions.

- Scaled down useful and affordable set in a Sys 1
or even better
- Somewhat specific sets each in a mini-Sys. One mini-Sys might contain drivers, another extensions and countersinks, another wood bits, another metal bits. This makes each set easily affordable. Customers can pick which set-up they need when, can stack in a larger Sys as needed, etc. This will greatly boost sales.
Also Yes a mini-Sys would be a great stocking stuffer. ;D

 

[AlexThePalex]

;D Had to vote metric ....... when will you guys finally enter the 21st century and get rid of Imperial? 

 

[Jesse Cloud]

I voted metric, but would probably buy both if the price were reasonable.

 

[Brice Burrell]

Put out a useful and affordable Centrotec set and building will buy it.
So here are my suggestions.

- Scaled down useful and affordable set in a Sys 1
or even better
- Somewhat specific sets each in a mini-Sys. One mini-Sys might contain drivers, another extensions and countersinks, another wood bits, another metal bits. This makes each set easily affordable. Customers can pick which set-up they need when, can stack in a larger Sys as needed, etc. This will greatly boost sales.
Also Yes a mini-Sys would be a great stocking stuffer. ;D

Markus, I'm with you, small sets in the mini Sys.

So.... Given the choice, would you rather have some (probably metric version) Centrotec Set sooner or wait for a possible imperial version later?

Edit: Added a poll to make it easy to consolidate the votes.

Imperial version please!

 

[greg mann]

If it would be faster I would take metric in half mm increments in a mini. I would never be more than a few thou off a perfect Imperial size and that is fine for almost anything. Getting Festool to make the Centrotec drills in Imperial will be as hard as getting square drives.

 

[danrush]

I'm not sure I'll ever be in any danger of thinking in metric, but I have gotten used to knowing the metric drill sizes since switching to Centrotec.  I'm with Greg, metric now; I can find a size close enough to work. 

Dan

 

[John Stevens]

If it would be faster I would take metric in half mm increments in a mini. I would never be more than a few thou off a perfect Imperial size and that is fine for almost anything.

+1 on that.  Thanks for the idea, Greg.

Regards,

John

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I'm not sure I'll ever be in any danger of thinking in metric, but I have gotten used to knowing the metric drill sizes since switching to Centrotec.  I'm with Greg, metric now; I can find a size close enough to work. 

Dan

Yup, close enough is right.  Seriously, are we going to split hairs over imperical vs. metric drill bits?  I bet if we dumped a bunch of unmarked bits in a pile no one would no the difference between metric and imperial sizes.

This is for Shane- Speaking for myself and I think a few others here, we are tool whores, make all the acessories available and I will buy them.  I mean I bought the 35.00 belt clip thing.  It's like 8 bucks for the Husky one but, that would have been sac-religious!!  You guys could/should make a killing off the little silly things.  I know I always buy at least one thing when I go to Woodcraft, wether it be a clamp, backing pad, splinter strips (tell Woodcraft that you make clear ones now, they dont believe me).  

 

[Joe Jensen]

I'm not sure I'll ever be in any danger of thinking in metric, but I have gotten used to knowing the metric drill sizes since switching to Centrotec.  I'm with Greg, metric now; I can find a size close enough to work. 

Dan

Yup, close enough is right.  Seriously, are we going to split hairs over imperical vs. metric drill bits?  I bet if we dumped a bunch of unmarked bits in a pile no one would no the difference between metric and imperial sizes.

This is for Shane- Speaking for myself and I think a few others here, we are tool whores, make all the acessories available and I will buy them.  I mean I bought the 35.00 belt clip thing.  It's like 8 bucks for the Husky one but, that would have been sac-religious!!  You guys could/should make a killing off the little silly things.  I know I always buy at least one thing when I go to Woodcraft, wether it be a clamp, backing pad, splinter strips (tell Woodcraft that you make clear ones now, they dont believe me).  

Just what I don't want to do, pay super extra premium pricing for bits that are close.  I do plenty with metal too. When I want 1/4" I want 1/4".  With wood close is ok most of the time.  Just yesterday I was using the right angle attachment to drill some holes in duct work in a bad spot.  Had to drill "close" with a metric bit.  Didn't have any metric pop rivets and not the duct work is floppy.  Close isn't always close enough

 

[greg mann]

I understand the sentiment, Joe. My day job is all about metal. A few years back I did a count of holes we drilled in a single day: bolt holes, tapped holes, dowel pin holes, etc. It was well over 100,000. The problem that I see in our particular discussion is that Festool is metric oriented. I highly suspect that they have someone else make their drills, probably one of the higher quality cutting tool manufacturers in Europe that still work in HSS. These guys are all geared toward metric. If we want a wider offering of Centrotec drills I think it makes sense to acknowledge the realities of the world we are working in. We are more likely to get an offering in metric increments than Imperial.

Having a full pallet of sizes is nice, I'll grant you that. Most Euro drill makers offer their range in .1mm (.004") increments. On occasion that isn't good enough for us. We drill some holes to size tolerances closer than we reamed just 10 years ago. As it happens, Sandvik offers many of their drills in quarter/mm sizes (12.25, 12.5, 12,75 for example). We can often meet a need by spec'ing one of their drills. When you think about it there are not many gaps in a a range that includes .1mm and .25mm offerings but we will still fall on a gap every now and then.

I just think for most of what we do outside of some metal operations, and especially what we do with a hand drill, a .5mm increment range will get us there and, by default, we can actually hope to get that from Festool sooner rather than later.

 

[Frank Pellow]

If it would be faster I would take metric in half mm increments in a mini. I would never be more than a few thou off a perfect Imperial size and that is fine for almost anything. Getting Festool to make the Centrotec drills in Imperial will be as hard as getting square drives.

And we have been trying for square (Roberson) drives for over 5 years.  Christian seemed seriopus back then about supplying Robertson drives  and I understand that he tried but  I have come to beieve that it won't ever happen. 

Let's settle for more metric sizes.