Clamping elements - Festool MFT-SP vs. Bessey WNS-MFT

gharel

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I created this video review of the Festool clamps vs the new Bessey competition. Thought this forum might have some good discussion too.

TL;DR is that I think Besseys are superior in some ways and the Festools have less rough edges.

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Great review! I think you covered all the bases. I like the springs on the Bessey, I think they will allow for a little movement and still hold well. I think I will give them a try.

Thanks
 
Thanks for this. I have been using two pairs of the Bessey and one pair of the Festool type, actually Walko, but identical to Festool, for a while now. The bessey really are able to apply a massive force. I was actually going to make a large gluing frame press with pneumatic rams but so far the Besseys are proving more than adequate for 22mm shaker doors. Out of the two I would go with Bessey, they will most likely become the standard.
 
Festool has now brought out a green version of the Bessey EZR 15 SET. Its exactly the same just the Red bits are Green.
I got a paar of the Bessey Clamps as the were 10 € cheeper than the new Festool release and the Bessey ones throw in an adapter for Bosch rails.
The One Hand clamps are really nice with the top part able to slide in to a FS 2 rails and a little but robust leg extention to help get to difficult places.
So who copies who?
or are the companies just happy to work together.?
 

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I should have researched before I got the Bosch clamps for my Bosch rails; having a set that would work with either set of rails would have been much better than two different sets.
 
Love these new Festool rail clamps...they'll be ordered today.  [big grin]

I became spoiled after using the Mafell clamps on the Mafell rails. They're just too easy to use.  [smile]

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Ooo, very nice. I ordered a pair of the Bessey EZR-SET from Home Depot and they should be here tomorrow.
 
I also bought the Besseys from HD, $30 & change, cheapest place. The company I work part time for bought the DeWalt tracksaw and Powertec tracks and bag. I liked the ease of the DeWalt clamps which is why I bought the Besseys. The Powertec bag is actually nice, holds two tracks and the clamps. If I was still connecting tracks I would probably buy the bag as it’s only $30.00. I mostly use the 75 and 110 so the bag wouldn’t really be worth to me.
 
Cheese said:
Love these new Festool rail clamps...they'll be ordered today.  [big grin]

I became spoiled after using the Mafell clamps on the Mafell rails. They're just too easy to use.  [smile]

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Are these available from FTUSA? I didn't see it in the website.
 
I have three of these BESSEY EZR-SET.

I use them as small clamps, to clamp rails, and to clamp things to my Shaper workstation.  Works great.

Shaper also has a branded version of these too.  More expensive :-)

Bob
 
Bessey has had these track clamps for 4 or 5 years. Then in 2023 it looks like they included an adapter to fit the Bosch and the Mafell rails.

The Bessey EZR-SET fits pretty much every rail except the Bosch and Mafell.

The Bessey EZR15SET includes the adapter for the Bosch and Mafell rails 

Ron
 
Straight from the video thumbnail I can see that the Bessey part you clamp against is better in the sense it won't let the workpiece slide up.
 
No one uses wood wedges?

I drop a pin in one of the holes and a pair of wedges to clamp things.

Or even handier, I unfold my 35 year old Black and Decker Workmate.  Push in the stops on the top and crank the arms to clamp.  (Actually, I keep it set up adjacent to my two home made benches with MFT style tops.)

I see that both sets of clamps work, but with all that molded plastic, they look like something to buy at Toys R’ Us, and not at a woodworkers’ supply house.

In any case, the wedges are very useful for clamping. 

This guy uses wedges more or less as I do.  Ignore his haircut and everything after about 4:30 where he tries to sell tee-shirts.

I usually make mine from scrap poplar, oak or pine.  This guy uses MDF.  I might try that. 

My wedges seem to grow legs and wander off after a few months.  They take only a couple fo minutes to make on a taper jig so I don’t worry about it. 

Wedges can generate huge amounts of pressure—more than you will ever need in the wood shop.  I usually tap them together using a soft faced hammer, but I’ve also used a small bar clamp to tight the wedges.

My wedges are about 6 or 8 inches long and I generally cut a pair out of 1-1/2” x 3/4” stock.

If you are going to make ones for long term use, then a hard wood like oak or maple would be best.  Also, 1-1/2” thick would be good—it offers up a larger face to tap into place.
 
Packard said:
No one uses wood wedges?

No. Loose stuff that goes airborne when one of the clamps / clamped items tilts slightly... I don't like it.

The B&D Workmates are too low and rust faster than any plastic degrades (well, if both kept out of the sun, hehe). But for the price they are useful.
 
Coen said:
Packard said:
No one uses wood wedges?

No. Loose stuff that goes airborne when one of the clamps / clamped items tilts slightly... I don't like it.

The B&D Workmates are too low and rust faster than any plastic degrades (well, if both kept out of the sun, hehe). But for the price they are useful.

Mine’s not rusted and sat in a damp basement for 30+ years. 

It is lower than a MFT bench, and for some applications I make it even lower by not unfolding the small legs.
 
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