Cleantec CTL SYS features review Australian model.

[Davesbuildtips]

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Been using this little guy in a few different situations and all I can say is it is a very convenient extractor and no fuss to take with me. Very happy with it.
Click here for the review.
Watch my review on it's features (6 minutes) if you get a moment. 

 

[ear3]

Thanks for the review.  Please of please Festool push this to the top of things that need to be removed from the NAINA list.

 

[Davesbuildtips]

What is a NAINA list?  [blink]

 

[ewils91]

What is a NAINA list?  [blink]

Dave, it's a long list of tools made by Festool that are Not Available In North America. NAINA, they do this to torture us...lol.

 

[Davesbuildtips]

Because of the 110 volt thing you guys have?

 

[Stephen B]

[size=13pt]Nice review Dave.

As it has not yet apparently appeared on Festool Aust website, how did you get hold of the Cleantec to review?
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[member=56306]Davesbuildtips[/member]

 

[Davesbuildtips]

[size=13pt]Nice review Dave.

As it has not yet apparently appeared on Festool Aust website, how did you get hold of the Cleantec to review?
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[member=56306]Davesbuildtips[/member]

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/to.../Shops/tooltechnic/Categories/News/promotions

 

[Stephen B]

Thank you.  [smile]

[member=56306]Davesbuildtips[/member]

 

[DB10]

It's looking good Dave, have you or anyone else considered the long life life bag to go with this?

 

[ear3]

I think because of ul certification process required by osha, though I could be wrong. Sometimes results in weird anomalies, like how the 2200 is not approved for use in the CMS in the us, even though it is in the rest of the civilized world.

Because of the 110 volt thing you guys have?

 

[Stephen B]

I think because of ul certification process required by osha, though I could be wrong. Sometimes results in weird anomalies, like how the 2200 is not approved for use in the CMS in the us, even though it is in the rest of the civilized world.

Because of the 110 volt thing you guys have?

That is most likely because 110V Festool Routers have no collet brakes, unlike 240 V models.

[member=37411]Edward A Reno III[/member]

 

[Bohdan]

I think because of ul certification process required by osha, though I could be wrong. Sometimes results in weird anomalies, like how the 2200 is not approved for use in the CMS in the us, even though it is in the rest of the civilized world.

I think that the restriction is because the switch on the CMS can't handle the current load of the 110v OF2200 and nothing to do with osha.

 

[Davesbuildtips]

It's looking good Dave, have you or anyone else considered the long life life bag to go with this?

Don't know. I think I heard someone say you can get 300 empties out of a long life bag. Equals 50 cents an empty. The disposable bags work out at $7 Aus each (that would be close to 42 cents US lol.) if there are 5 in a pack like their other extractor bag packs have. Depends on if you want to suck up the dust when you empty the long-life bag or just drop the disposable one in a bin. I do like the convenience of throwing it away. I know there will be people who just try to shake the dust out of the disposable bags but I think it is just going to stuff the main filter pretty quickly as the disposable bag starts deteriorating and leaking after the second time you try it. Costs more in the long run.

 

[Davesbuildtips]

I noticed that someone in another thread was concerned that the hose and lead were difficult to fit in the garage and also thought a sys 1.5 or 2 may be better as well as a 3.5 meter hose.
Here are my responses from my experience with the SYS CTL.
1. The whole idea behind this vac is super portable and light weight. The sys 1 garage is perfect for this need.
2. If you put the hose and lead back in the way I show you in my video it works a treat.
3. If the hose was 3.5 meters it would drag on the ground behind you when the vac is on the carry strap on your shoulder. Bad idea.

 

[BMAC]

I think because of ul certification process required by osha, though I could be wrong. Sometimes results in weird anomalies, like how the 2200 is not approved for use in the CMS in the us, even though it is in the rest of the civilized world.

Because of the 110 volt thing you guys have?

[member=37411]Edward A Reno III[/member] the 2200 is not approved for use in the CMS here in Canada either. Unfortunately, Canada even has less Festool tools available for sale here than even the US does. The US may have NAINA but we are AEEC (Available Everywhere Except in Canada) for many of the Festool tools.

I suspect that our onerous CSA certification program process and the additional cost for probably a much smaller market is part of the reason that a number of tools aren't available here. Couple that with the really bad Canadian dollar exchange rate right now and the Jan 1st, 2016 10% price increase (Festool is imported here from the US and NOT direct from Germany). Oh yeah, don't forget that LAST January there was also a 10% increase!!!! So a 20% increase in 366 days on already ridiculous prices and I'm sure that the Canadian sales numbers will drop off because of the pricing here.

A Kapex sells here for $1,920 plus 5%! Yikes.

That said, I'd still buy a CTL SYS here for $500 as I can't write off the convenience that this unit would provide on my job sites.

 

[Davesbuildtips]

Kapex is much the same price here in Australia.
The CTL SYS is super convenient!

 

[Davesbuildtips]

This vac has no speed control. I thought that might be a problem but due to the reduced volume of air the unit moves, 3,000 litres per minute compared to the other Festool vacs 3,900 litres a minute, I am not noticing any swirly marks when sanding timber. Go figure?

 

[Stephen B]

This vac has no speed control. I thought that might be a problem but due to the reduced volume of air the unit moves, 3,000 litres per minute compared to the other Festool vacs 3,900 litres a minute, I am not noticing any swirly marks when sanding timber. Go figure?

Dave, I was looking at one at my dealers this morning. My favourite salesperson agrees with you re suction control, although also agreed that he suspected a hose control may be needed for the ETS125. What do you think?

 

[Davesbuildtips]

I was going to suggest it but with the added bulk I decided against making the comment as this little guy is a light weight contender. As I said, no swerlies that I could spot. But, if you want to give it a try let me know how it works. [smile]

 

[neeleman]

This vac has no speed control. I thought that might be a problem but due to the reduced volume of air the unit moves, 3,000 litres per minute compared to the other Festool vacs 3,900 litres a minute, I am not noticing any swirly marks when sanding timber. Go figure?

Dave, I was looking at one at my dealers this morning. My favourite salesperson agrees with you re suction control, although also agreed that he suspected a hose control may be needed for the ETS125. What do you think?

Festool has an adapter (#496112) for ETS/RTS/DTS sanders to reduce the vacuum suction.
Together with the CTL-SYS it helps a little although the hose gets of quickly because of the smooth end.