CMS OF 2200 what bits?

[PreferrablyWood]

Now I'm getting the CMS GE with the OF 2200

I've made a startup list based mostly from what I've learned from the various usage videos on the here on the Fog and from related material on the net

I chose an up-cut spiral, there are two types one with a speciel chip ejecting edge treatment which cost about 20% more than the regular one they are both solid carbide, for through cutouts with the MFS

2 bearing guided edge trimming bits, the 24mm 8mm shank and the 55mm  12mm shank for doing edging and template work.

a round over bit with  44 mm diameter for large rails and edges on benches planters, I already have a small round over bit with 8mm shank. The bigger bits I plan on using mostly in the table.. [eek]

a lock mitre bit, the largest CMT offer has is  70mm diameter which I can see the CMS can't accommodate, so I went to the smaller size diameter 50mm. For small boxes, and Hollow columns..

A planing bit, it's unfortunately only with a 1/2 shank 38mm diameter. so that will be the only bit that will require me to get a 1/2 collet for the OF 2200

A long straight bit for jointing and doing grooves.. for dados..

I'll wait to get the v groove and round nose bits..or any panel raising bits..

My question is are there any bits that as a core system setup I'm missing in my startup list? They are all 12mm shank, except the short edge trimming bit which is 8mm

Thanks for any help

As the bits I'm interested in were on back order in the UK, I've decided to get them through italian Amazon seems prices are competitive..

I'll add that my plan is to do some outdoor furniture,planters thick massive oak or exotic woods, interior panel doors, countertops, door hardware trellis with lap joints, torsion box, classic workbench..

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I guess it's hard to suggest what bits when I'm not overly specific as the needs.

But I'm zeroing in on quite a nice start up set, the guide bits, in 8 12mm shank give me edge trimming for laminates, and doing template with the CMS.

The lock mitre will allow me to make a seamless jointed cube, square boxes and planters, column features.

The long 19mm straight bit for grooves, dados and mortises

The big round over bit can be used to make handrails and round robust edges on outdoor benches

The solid carbide 12mm upcut spiral bits can be used for making shapes with trammel and the MFS sytem

The planing bit can be used for rabbits and for planing rough lumber flate be for putting it through a thickness planer.

I'll wait on dovetail bits, panel raising bits, etc but will being doing some panel doors etc in the not to distant future...

Will bu the CMT bits through the italien Amazon as they are available for immediate shipping..Not so strange when they are manufactured in italy.. Prices seem good and quality is comparable to the Festool bits. Only niggle is I'll have to buy a 1/2 collet for 40 ish Euros as the planing and the lock mitre bits are only available in that size..

So no opinions on what bits are most used in a router table any stand out things missing from my list?

 

[sancho57]

Buy my bits as I need them. After a while I have collected quite a assortment. I don't recommend buy bits just to have a collection. Buy for need.But buy the best quality bits you can afford to buy.

 

[PreferrablyWood]

Buy my bits as I need them. After a while I have collected quite a assortment. I don't recommend buy bits just to have a collection. Buy for need.But buy the best quality bits you can afford to buy.

Yes that's mostly how I work too, but on the other hand, I need to learn whats possible and get used to the system so I'm just going to dive in and make a few projects which use the various techniques described.. Most of the things I'll be making are for our communal garden areas and the music school. So my time is paid for while I'm experimenting..

 

[sancho57]

I like Infinity Bits. Pricey but some of the best I've used.
http://www.infinitytools.com

Woodbine are cheap bits but I really like them. Never had a problem with them at all. Held up great and are resharpenable.
https://www.woodline.com

 

[SMJoinery]

I also use the CMT bits and find them superb.
Their range of panel raising / door bits including the exterior door set bits are easy to set up and give a perfect fit.

 

[Woodwork Wizard]

I hate cheap router bits, I was given 3 made by Silverline that were brand spanking new and the bearing guide fell to bits within a few feet of use on every one. Not fit for purpose and absolute rubbish.

Wealden Tool Company in the U.K. do good router bits and so do CMT and the Festool BOX OF-S8 is a very usable set of 10 bits with 8mm shank. I also have a Trend box set of 30 bits that was a great price and has lasted me about 14 years.

Cheap router bits in a Festool router is a bit like fitting bicycle tyres on a Jag...

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I like Infinity Bits. Pricey but some of the best I've used.
http://www.infinitytools.com

Woodbine are cheap bits but I really like them. Never had a problem with them at all. Held up great and are resharpenable.
https://www.woodline.com

I noticed the infinity bits, there was an interesting you tube video on the rabbiting bit..infinity planing and rabatbit

 

[PreferrablyWood]

It's late at night, but I'm restless, I felt I needed to get something going with the Router bit situation. I chose to get the bits from italian amazon, as CMT is based in italy and all items are available for immediate delivery, and are from the same dealer..Now I didn't do a gruelling search for the absolute cheapest price for the bits, I'm getting worn out by all this shopping and am most concerned that I get the bits I want delivered in a reasonable time frame from dealer that has them in stock..Amazon gives some confidence that I'm not going to get shafted...

One thing that was a hindrance here in the EU was finding a 1/2" collet for the OF 2200 it's weird but it seems to not be available here in the Europe mainland. But I'm forced to get it really as it seems and many of the interesting router bits are only available in 1/2" shank. I ended up finding the necessary collet on uk Ebay, it's an expensive additional item £54 with shipping, but once bought it opens a doorway to cheaper bits. I see I may also eventually need a 1/4" collet for some bits, so is seems you need all collet sizes that your routers can accommodate if you want speciel bits at reasonable prices..

So here is my list of bits, after some addition reading I came to the conclusion that getting a slightly smaller diameter upcut bit and a downcut bit would be good for a start 3/8" instead of 1/2" allowing for tighter corners, and keeps the load down on the motor. The downcut bit will be used when doing inlay work and other situations where a tight clean edge is critical. The upcut for grooves, and through cut. If the bits are too short to go completely through the stock, I can finish the cut from below by drilling a hole through and using a straight bit with a guide bushing. I also bought a digital angle finder for getting the saw blade angle set on the CMS TS 75 unit, I know the small square magnetic one is recommended by Garry Martin but I feel this bevel angle finder type will be more flexible and will be more useful for finding angles away from the saw..

My list looks like this then:
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[Bohdan]

The ELU MO177 collet is exactly the same as the OF2200 and may be available for a lot less money. Another cutter that I use a lot in the CMS is a long 20 mm diameter that I use for jointing boards or squaring small stock, much easier and safer that on a jointer.

 

[Holmz]

It's late at night, but I'm restless, I felt I needed to get something going with the Router bit situation.
...

Not sure where in Sweden, but the idea of getting them as you need them, does motors as well wen one is a long ways from where they are at.
So getting what you (think you) need makes sense.

 

[PreferrablyWood]

The ELU MO177 collet is exactly the same as the OF2200 and may be available for a lot less money. Another cutter that I use a lot in the CMS is a long 20 mm diameter that I use for jointing boards or squaring small stock, much easier and safer that on a jointer.

Thanks for the information, I'm stuck with the expensive one this time, but I still need a 1/4" collet for the OF 1010, is there a part number for a compatible ELU version?

If I ever need a replacement for the OF 2200 1/2" collet I'll keep this in mind too.. Often when buying a single item a big part of the expense is the shipping, it was £14...

 

[PreferrablyWood]

It's late at night, but I'm restless, I felt I needed to get something going with the Router bit situation.
...

Not sure where in Sweden, but the idea of getting them as you need them, does motors as well wen one is a long ways from where they are at.
So getting what you (think you) need makes sense.

I'm mostly trying to save later by spending now, the router bits that I buy locally seem quite expensive in comparison to what I can get from abroad, another thing is I'm outfitting a shop, using time to do it now, where my workload is more flexible compared to my usual workload which is pretty high and has to done in specific timeslots, so even just going out to buy something for an hour in the daytime mucks my workday into the plus 12 hours, which isn't pretty..

 

[Bohdan]

Thanks for the information, I'm stuck with the expensive one this time, but I still need a 1/4" collet for the OF 1010, is there a part number for a compatible ELU version?

The smaller ELU MO96 collet nut is different to the festool one so it won't fit. I presume that you have the 8 mm collet for the 1010 so just get an 8 mm to 1/4" adaptor.

 

[Holmz]

I'm mostly trying to save later by spending now, the router bits that I buy locally seem quite expensive in comparison to what I can get from abroad...

And the shipping cost and time -> makes sense to order them together.

 

[Kev]

I've avoided commenting on this thread thus far as my router bit buying addiction is worse than a heroine junkie's [embarassed]

There are some really nice drawer pull and "T" slot cutters out there that can give you some interesting assembly and function options aside from those just for finish. Also some things like ball cutters that let you do creative things like running a recessed line, etc.

Seeing you have the 2200, running the big bannister/handrail cutters will be no problem either [wink]

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I've avoided commenting on this thread thus far as my router bit buying addiction is worse than a heroine junkie's [embarassed]

There are some really nice drawer pull and "T" slot cutters out there that can give you some interesting assembly and function options aside from those just for finish. Also some things like ball cutters that let you do creative things like running a recessed line, etc.

Seeing you have the 2200, running the big bannister/handrail cutters will be no problem either [wink]

I've got it bad even worse though Im 'doubly no tripely, quadrupley addicted, I'm avidly photographic, synthesiser sounds and music, tools for wood, mechanics, gardening, So if I add an addiction to router bits well it's a usual state of affairs and hey welcome to the club, I have a tendency of getting through the whole list of addictions every two or three years.. So this is the summer of living the CMS  and router world..Actually think it will all be a good investment..It's a great way to pass the time and find out new things about how the world works. I'm banging the heck out of my bank account, especially the MFS system and the accessories kit for the OF 22000 were a serious left hook  to the bank book. But not to worry I firmly believe it's going to get me some serious double looks, and jobs aplenty when the community can see what can be done with the Festools..

 

[Holmz]

Guys, guys...
The addicts spend a lot more and have less to show for it.

If these things bring you joy then do N [embarassed] T be ashamed.

 

[Kev]

I've got it bad even worse though Im 'doubly no tripely, quadrupley addicted, I'm avidly photographic, synthesiser sounds and music, tools for wood, mechanics, gardening, So if I add an addiction to router bits well it's a usual state of affairs and hey welcome to the club, I have a tendency of getting through the whole list of addictions every two or three years.. So this is the summer of living the CMS  and router world..Actually think it will all be a good investment..It's a great way to pass the time and find out new things about how the world works. I'm banging the heck out of my bank account, especially the MFS system and the accessories kit for the OF 22000 were a serious left hook  to the bank book. But not to worry I firmly believe it's going to get me some serious double looks, and jobs aplenty when the community can see what can be done with the Festools..
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Yeh - I've got over 20 guitars and can't play a note .. I hear ya. I tend not to cycle back through addictions as frequently as you - I tend to just add them on top [embarassed] Some I manage to park. For some reason I started buying mouth organs (can't play them either)  [embarassed], but I managed to stop that one at about 2 drawers full. Sometimes physics imposes limits ... I haven't got anywhere safe to store any more spearguns without building more storage!

It is a personality disorder that's not commonly discussed .. ECD, excessive compulsive disorder. Typically you have some level of mild OCD, combined with classic shopperholic tendencies. The thing is I'm not really looking to be cured [wink]

 

[PreferrablyWood]

Guys, guys...
The addicts spend a lot more and have less to show for it.

If these things bring you joy then do N [embarassed] T be ashamed.

No I'm not going to be ashamed just today I was out making the world a more beautiful place by restoring an old top quality teak park bench table, the table was a mess, no one seems to want to maintain things, they cost quite a lot, and now after 20 years they will look almost new again. Using the RO 90 DX, RS 300 EQ and the Ct Midi with hosed sleeve were really nice to work with..When things are let go though it takes a lot of time to bring it back..