Consolidated Q&A for Domino XL DF 700 Joiner

[Administrator_JSVN]

Shane, what are the actual dimensions of the new tenons (thickness and width)?  I'm looking for tenons that fit my 500 at their widest settings for the 8 and 10 mm.

Rob, the width is the same. Here are the 8 & 10 mm tenon sizes for the XL.

8 x 22 x 80 mm
8 x 22 x 100 mm
10 x 24 x 80 mm
10 x 24 x 100 mm

Here are the measurements for the DF 500.

8 x 22 x 40 mm
8 x 22 x 50 mm
10 x 24 x 50 mm

You could always rip two tenons down to half the width of the mortise and then Domino them together with a 4mm tenon. [big grin]

 

[Rembo]

Shane, what are the actual dimensions of the new tenons (thickness and width)?  I'm looking for tenons that fit my 500 at their widest settings for the 8 and 10 mm.

Aloha,
Rob

maybe it will bring clarity (upper board XL 700)

 

[jacko9]

Shane, what are the actual dimensions of the new tenons (thickness and width)?  I'm looking for tenons that fit my 500 at their widest settings for the 8 and 10 mm.

Aloha,
Rob

You can also just plane, round over and rip your own tenons [wink]

 

[fritter63]

Will there be an accessory systainer of dominoes and extra bits for the 700?

 

[John Stevens]

Great idea consolidating the Q&As in the first post of this thread, Shane.  Thanks!

Regards,

John

 

[Peter James]

Will there be an accessory systainer of dominoes and extra bits for the 700?

Yes there will be two different systainer sets - one with 8mm & 10mm and another with 12mm & 14mm. Extra bits will also be available.

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[andvari]

Thanks for checking on that and reporting back, Peter. I'm not sure when that transition to the new cross stop being included with the DF 500 took place, but I'd guess at least several months since the XL has been in Europe for a while now.

Unfortunately not back as far as September when I bought my DF 500. But it's a pretty minor cost difference to get the set again when the time comes.

I really like the compartments for dominoes in the systainer.

 

[Kevin Stricker]

While not a 700 question per se, but when does Festool plan to replace the tenon systainer design for the 500 with the removable trays?  Will the trays be available on or around June for us to make our own?

Thanks,

Kevin

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

While not a 700 question per se, but when does Festool plan to replace the tenon systainer design for the 500 with the removable trays?  Will the trays be available on or around June for us to make our own?

Kevin, the new style tenon assortment systainer is already available to dealers, empty (498889) and with tenons (498899). Does that answer the questions? Not sure I understand the second part about trays to make your own.

Edit: To be clear, that's for the DF 500, not the XL.

 

[Kevin Stricker]

Thanks Shane.  Second part was to see if the trays or bins would be available separately similar to the sys1 boxes. At $85 for the t-loc, lid foam, and trays it makes more sense to just buy the whole deal.  I could see some extras coming in handy though.

Thanks again,

Kevin

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Currently, there's no option to purchase the bins separately, nor do I know of any plans to offer them separately.

 

[RussellS]

the width is the same. Here are the 8 & 10 mm tenon sizes for the XL.

8 x 22 x 80 mm
8 x 22 x 100 mm
10 x 24 x 80 mm
10 x 24 x 100 mm

Here are the measurements for the DF 500.

8 x 22 x 40 mm
8 x 22 x 50 mm
10 x 24 x 50 mm

Just checking, but will the Domino XL also cut mortises to fit the DF500 tenons?  Will the XL cut mortises for 8x22x40 and 8x22x50 and 10x24x50 tenons?

 

[tbellemare]

The depth spec' is 15-70 mm so it should work fine.

Tom

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Just checking, but will the Domino XL also cut mortises to fit the DF500 tenons?  Will the XL cut mortises for 8x22x40 and 8x22x50 and 10x24x50 tenons?

Russell, for the 8mm and 10mm tenons, yes.

For the 4mm, 5mm and 6mm tenons, no.

 

[cgmojoco]

Does anyone have examples of what the Domino 500 can do that the Domino XL cannot?
(not just ---"it can cut smaller" ...rather what specific project types can't be done with the XL that can with the 500...)

 

[Jesse Cloud]

Does anyone have examples of what the Domino 500 can do that the Domino XL cannot?
(not just ---"it can cut smaller" ...rather what specific project types can't be done with the XL that can with the 500...)

Well, I think the XL would be useless for 1/2 plywood, most trim, etc. since smallest tenon is 8mm.    You could use the XL for aligning panels, but it would be overkill.

 

[peter halle]

The 500 can be used on 1/2 inch thick material.  Drawer joints can be made for instance using the 4 mm bit.  The commonly used convention is that your tenon should be approximately 1/3 the thickness of your material.  Using that as a basis, any jointing with materials less than 3/4 thick would best be served by the 500 versus the XL.  As Brian (a Festool Trainer) showed at the show last week, it is possible to use the smallest domino size possible with the XL on 3/4 inch stock - IF you are comfortable with the remaining wood material on either side of domino that results.  If so - go for it.  The cutter length is also greater in the XL so you are inserting more of a tenon into each side of your joint.

I hope others will give more examples for you.

Peter

 

[cgmojoco]

Thank you.

So far, sounds like I'm going to have to get both
Good looking out Festool

 

[jacko9]

The 500 can be used on 1/2 inch thick material.  Drawer joints can be made for instance using the 4 mm bit.  The commonly used convention is that your tenon should be approximately 1/3 the thickness of your material.  Using that as a basis, any jointing with materials less than 3/4 thick would best be served by the 500 versus the XL.  As Brian (a Festool Trainer) showed at the show last week, it is possible to use the smallest domino size possible with the XL on 3/4 inch stock - IF you are comfortable with the remaining wood material on either side of domino that results.  If so - go for it.  The cutter length is also greater in the XL so you are inserting more of a tenon into each side of your joint.

I hope others will give more examples for you.

Peter

Peter,

My Domino 500 is perfectly suited for most of my cabinet and furniture needs however, with large doors or large case work, the extra thickness of tenon and length of the tenon capability of the XL 700 is a great addition to my tooling.  Previously large m&t  work was a table saw and hand chisel operation since my previously owned slot mortising table couldn't handle the weight of the large pieces.

Jack

 

[tbellemare]

I have some French doors that were part of a remodel just prior to my buying this house. The doors appear to have been originally made OK but the installer was an idiot and since, they have deteriorated and have always let in water. They installed everything as if the weather was coming from inside??? I did some poor remedial work but now:

I need to rebuild the whole lot so this new M&T machine should come in perfectly.

I'm ready to put it to use and hopefully, it will happen quickly.

Tom

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