Consolidated Q&A for TI 15 Hybrid Impact / Drill Driver

[Administrator_JSVN]

Post your questions here. Find details and info at http://drills.festoolusa.com/cordless-drills/models/ti-impact/

Available October 1st, 2012.

If you already own one of our C-Series or T-Series cordless drills and enjoy the benefits they offer, we have just the right solution for you to add the TI 15 impact driver to your tool arsenal. A special version of the TI 15 impact driver, the "Basic" version, will come with the impact driver body, drill/driver adapter, and Centrotec impact bit holder in a custom SYS 3 Systainer that has room for your Festool cordless drill and accessories. Since you already have the batteries and charger, you can purchase just this basic kit at significant savings.

 

[Kevin D.]

Spec wise, what's the difference between this drill and the T15 non-hybrid other than the impact feature.  The price difference does not seem that significant.  

Btw, Canadian pricing available yet?

Lookin for any pre-relaese testers in Canada.  I have a big deck, pergola, and two sheds to build starting in the next week or so.  Wish it was available sooner.  The Ipe I'm using will be nasty to work with.  By the time October rolls around, I hope to be mostly finished.  

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Kevin, the TI 15 and T 15 are extremely similar in specifications and built off of the same platform. The TI 15 weighs 2.7oz more, will not be offered as a set with the right angle and offset chucks included, and the head of the TI 15 is slightly larger in size. Those are the things I can think of that are different.

Canadian dealers were given the details of the new products yesterday along with US dealers. The pricing for the TI 15 will be $610 CAD, the basic version that doesn't include batteries or the charger will be $400 CAD.

There's not going to be a pre-release test program for the new products as far as I know.

Shane

 

[nclemmons]

Shane

in the videos and photos there is a TI-FX impact adapter shown, but it's not clear when you use that versus just the drill with a chuck.  Can you explain the difference in the drill with and without the impact adapter?  It looks like the videos never use that adapter - the 'impact' driving is the drill alone with one of the chucks, so not clear what it does.

thanks

neil

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

in the videos and photos there is a TI-FX impact adapter shown, but it's not clear when you use that versus just the drill with a chuck.  Can you explain the difference in the drill with and without the impact adapter?  It looks like the videos never use that adapter - the 'impact' driving is the drill alone with one of the chucks, so not clear what it does.

Neil,

The FX adapter simply overrides the impact functionality. So, it would be used in conjunction with the right angle and eccentric chucks particularly, and the Centrotec chuck for drilling operations. The keyless chuck has a built-in impact override and doesn't require the FX to be attached.

Hopefully, I've explained it in an easy-to-understand way. If not, feel free to ask for more explanation or details.

 

[nclemmons]

Shane

Yep - that makes sense.  It's basically the 'impact cancellation adapter' or the 'no impact adapter' !

Are you suggesting that the impact force would not be beneficial on the eccentric chuck?  I would think it might in some circumstances.

I can understand it not working with the right-angle given the force being applied in the wrong way. But curious on eccentric.

neil

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Neil,

I'm admittedly not an engineer, but I think it's because it would either destroy the internals of the eccentric chuck which is comprised of gears and such.

Shane

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

1. I have a Makita right angle impact driver that I can come to know and love. http://makita.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?ID=24083

If the standard Festool right angle head cannot withstand impact forces, can we expect to someday see a right angle head or complete right angle impact driver from Festool?

I ask because it is in those tight spaces where you have zero leverage that impact drivers REALLY shine and blow away drills as screw drivers, it's curious that Festool does not address this.

2. Does Festool have any plans to release a 1/4" Hex bit holder for the drills and impact driver? There are so many proprietary bits on the market now that I can't reasonably expect Festool to release a Centrotrec version of each one, but I am permanently out of the market for Festool cordless products until there is a standard chuck for this (not just an adapter). Any promising news?

Thanks Shane, keep up the great work!

 

[mavrick1903]

Shane, How well will the TI 15 run on a c12 battery?

 

[ceddy]

Shane, How well will the TI 15 run on a c12 battery?

Somebody correct me on this but you should only notice less weight and less battery life. Also note that a C12 battery will fit in a "15" tool, but not the other way around.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Shane, How well will the TI 15 run on a c12 battery?

Oops. Sorry I missed this question.

I've used our 15 and 18 drills with 12v batteries. I wouldn't say there was an appreciable difference. I'm sure there was some, but I didn't notice enough to make a difference. Your local Festool dealer would probably let you take one of your 12v batteries in to test it out on their display model. Also, keep in mind the 30 day guarantee. My opinions are just that and maybe you or someone else will think differently. I try to be as objective as possible.

 

[Scotty]

Shane,

I read this post and have a few questions.  Mostly when using the TI 15 with the right angle chuck.  Can the right angle chuck be used as an impact driver, for instance, can I drill some SDS's in?  Nothing too big more like a 1/4" x 3 1/2 in a tight spot?  I can live without the eccentric having impact, but the right angle being impact would probably be a big selling point for me.

Where in the 95060 zip code or closest dealer can I actually feel this drill and try it out?  Please don't recommend Probuild on 41st Ave.  They don't have squat and one of their salesman is pretty lame with the Festool knowledge.

 

[Brice Burrell]

First, welcome.  Unfortunately you can't use the right angle adapter with the impact mode.  As for dealers, you can do a search on the Festool USA site.  

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Scotty,

First, welcome to the forum and thanks for your questions.

The Ti 15 overrides the impact functionality when using the right angle and eccentric chucks. I speculated in a thread that it may have been that the internal gears and workings of the right angle chuck may not be able to handle the stresses of the impact, but that's just a guess on my part.

I'd like to put you in touch with our regional rep in your area to help you get your hands on a Ti15 and to answer your questions. I'll send you his contact information privately.

Santa Cruz... I've been there. Nice area, but it's been forever ago. Would like to get back out to that area soon for a visit.

If you have any other questions, let me know.

Shane

 

[Scotty]

Thanks for the welcome.  I kind of figured that it may have had something to do with the integral parts.  The only right angle impact out there worth using is Makita.  But it is $200 for tool only and close to $400 with batteries.  I am sure the Festool could easily drive an 1 1/2" or 2 1/2" sds into PT with no worries.  Just curious about the impact part.

So if I purchase the c 15 and the TI 15 (tool only), according to CPO Festool, you get (2) systainers?  I am trying to picture how it works according to your top photo.  If I can put both drills in one systainer, that would be slick.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

I've run 10" Timberloks with the right angle without issues into PT with the C/T 15. Don't expect to be able to do that with the Ti15 though. It's low torque without the impact mode.

There's no option to get a C-Series (C15, for instance) or T-Series without a systainer. The Ti 15 basic is just the drill body with no charger or batteries and it has a space in the systainer for a C/T drill. I'm sure you could unload the systainer here on the forum's classified if you don't want the extra.

So, your setup would look like this:

 

[Scotty]

With the picture blown up I can see your point. 

Basically the setup you have pictured is what would compliment my tool setup.  The C15 with the TI-15.  I do not own any festool drills because I have been waiting for my Makita impact and drill/driver to die out.  Waiting is turning out to be fruitful because the 2 missing links (impact driver and belt clip integration) are materializing.

Please send me that rep number when you have the chance.

 

[Scotty]

I talked to the customer service rep for our area.  He was very helpful.  He was able to accomodate a showing of the drill but it was for one day only.  He called all of the dealers in my immediate area, however, I guess due to Superstorm Sandy, stock is extremely limited and a lot of people are sold out.  I told him I would just wait a few weeks then call around and see who has one to look at.

 

[Bhend18]

If you had the custom sys-3 that comes with the TI 15 Basic set, could you put any T style drill on the right and any C style on the left. Would it work even with the CXS?

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

If you had the custom sys-3 that comes with the TI 15 Basic set, could you put any T style drill on the right and any C style on the left. Would it work even with the CXS?

Yes, but it will not accommodate the CXS.