Cordless Lamello Zeta

[Samo]

So, I'm sure I'm not alone but this little baby has been on my radar. 

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$400 price difference for cordless.  Does include the diamond cutter blade and 2 batties although.  Just wish I could avoid another 1 battery/charger tool.  Hello CXS, Dremel, etc. etc.

I don't recognize the battery being similar to any other companies out there.  Does anyone have any insight or clues as to who makes these batteries?

Thanks, Sam

 

[squall_line]

They're CAS batteries.

From a press clipping (emphasis on the final sentence added):

"Nürtingen/Bubendorf, December 2021: The connection between Lamello and Metabo has been right for many decades: Already in the 1960s did Metabo motors provide the necessary power in the Lamello biscuit joiner. In the 80s, the Swiss specialist for precision joining systems also started using the battery pack technology of the power tool manufacturer Metabo. Now Lamello is taking the next step. The company becomes part of the Cordless Alliance Systems (CAS), a cross-brand battery pack alliance initiated by Metabo."

 

[Samo]

They're CAS batteries.

From a press clipping (emphasis on the final sentence added):

"Nürtingen/Bubendorf, December 2021: The connection between Lamello and Metabo has been right for many decades: Already in the 1960s did Metabo motors provide the necessary power in the Lamello biscuit joiner. In the 80s, the Swiss specialist for precision joining systems also started using the battery pack technology of the power tool manufacturer Metabo. Now Lamello is taking the next step. The company becomes part of the Cordless Alliance Systems (CAS), a cross-brand battery pack alliance initiated by Metabo."

Thank you squall_line.

Just found the other thread.  Maffell Metabo.  I'm never going to benefit in the US from any of this.

 

[thudchkr]

Been considering this as well. I’m already invested in the CAS system though, having two separate cordless Mafell saws. I talked to the US importer of the Zeta P2 and they confirmed my existing batteries will work with it. You just need to upgrade to the Mafell line and you’ll be all set.  [tongue]

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

I've been incredibly happy with my CAS-battery tools. Sort of like a "varsity team" of tools, all on the same platform.

 

[DynaGlide]

The Zeta is one of those tools I can't see the need for cordless. Unless you're doing on site fitting and installs it's like the Domino in that its primary place of use is in the shop with power. If the cord is an issue it can be converted over to Plug it easily.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

The Zeta is one of those tools I can't see the need for cordless. Unless you're doing on site fitting and installs it's like the Domino in that its primary place of use is in the shop with power. If the cord is an issue it can be converted over to Plug it easily.

Agreed totally, especially since the batteries wouldn't be usable in any other way/tools. I have a corded Zeta, using it somewhat frequently, though not as much as the DF500, but I don't think it would be a good fit for a battery type tool. The batteries would not get enough use. I always use dust extraction with it too, so we're back to the "if you have the hose aready, the cord is not an issue"

 

[thudchkr]

My reason for wanting the cordless Zeta P2 is buying only a single "Lamello" joiner.  I need a joiner for cutting slots on decking boards to use a hidden fastener system.  Cordless would be a huge boon when working outside on a deck.  There, dust collection is not necessary either.  I am not needing to cut the grooved slot, but can cut a normal biscuit slot with the Zeta and the 4mm slot cutter, which is what I need on my decking boards.  And, when I'm not doing decking and am back in the shop doing cabinetmaking, I can now put the Zeta to work cutting slots for knockdown fasteners. 

As I said earlier, I'm already invested in the CAS battery system, and use my Mafell MT 55 18M bl for the vast majority of my tracksaw tasks.  I do have a corded MT 55 as well, but it primarily lives on my MFT cutting station. 

If there would have been a cordless Zeta available when I started on my last deck project, I'd probably already own one.  Unfortunately, when I inquired as to their availability, was informed of at least a 6 week wait.  I am still considering one, but I won't be doing any decks for a while now, seeing winter has firmly set in for now.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

It sounds like you are in the best-case scenario for this. Fantastic! Let us know how it works out for you.
The Zeta is an awesome tool. I use one pretty regularly in the cabinet shop. It is the one tool in my area that is not mine though. It belongs to the company.  There is no need for more than one of them, so since the boss bought this one the day I was buying much of my replacement tools, it's not mine.  I store, use, and maintain it though.
When I retire, I will probably switch over to the Festool connector system, since I do own a DF500 and maybe a DF700 by then?

 

[afish]

I just wish the corded unit wasnt 1600... its a little more than I can justify for how much I would use it. However , when you need/want one of the cam style locks it would be nice. 

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I just wish the corded unit wasnt 1600... its a little more than I can justify for how much I would use it. However , when you need/want one of the cam style locks it would be nice.

I know what you mean. It took several months to talk the boss into buying the first one we had at the shop. I had never seen/heard of the thing at that time, but the local dealer brought one in for a demo one day. I could see the potential immediately, but we didn't have an application right away. A few months later a "skeletonized sculpture" of sorts came up. It was a lot of layers of CNC-cut parts that needed to be assembled with the usual "no visible fasteners" look. It was the perfect case to buy one. By the end of that week, it was in-hand.
After the fire, he didn't think twice about getting another one, since we used it far more than expected.
I will probably go with the Festool fasteners when I retire, because I just don't see the volume of use that would be needed. The access holes for the Lamello Clamex are much smaller, but that's a sacrifice I'll have to make.
The snap-together version (Tenso) is very handy too. They are 100% invisible and it takes a surprising amount of force to get them apart again, assuming you would want to.

 

[DynaGlide]

I had a need for the Zeta about 15 months ago (time flies). Since using it for oh I don't know 20 plunges it has sat in its systainer. That's probably a result of me being a hobbyist. I'd probably sell it if it weren't for people thinking its overpriced and wanting it for way under MSRP. I look at eBay occasionally and the auctions end around $1100. At that kind of loss I'll just hold onto it.

It's a great machine and maybe I'll put it to use again when I start doing cabinets more. Or maybe I'll get creative with bevels on my next furniture project  [scratch chin]

 

[thorp]

 

[afish]

I had a need for the Zeta about 15 months ago (time flies). Since using it for oh I don't know 20 plunges it has sat in its systainer. That's probably a result of me being a hobbyist. I'd probably sell it if it weren't for people thinking its overpriced and wanting it for way under MSRP. I look at eBay occasionally and the auctions end around $1100. At that kind of loss I'll just hold onto it.

It's a great machine and maybe I'll put it to use again when I start doing cabinets more. Or maybe I'll get creative with bevels on my next furniture project  [scratch chin]

For me I see very little cabinet use. its more for creative stuff.  those cam locks would be perfect for mitersaw wings, joining mfts together etc.

 

[robegreen8]

Wow

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