Cover Plate Review TS55

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  I recently added the cover plate to my TS55. I definetly see an improvement in DC in the following situations-      Cutting thin strips, straight line ripping, removing just the kerf with no wood on the right of the blade. Basically any time the saw is close to the right edge of the wood.  Also on MDF, the cover plate  keeps the fine dust from escaping through the openings.                  
     Now, some of the improvement when just removing a kerf, is that it prevents the dust from being blown out to the right. So even if not much more actually gets picked up, the plate still keeps it in check so that it falls  right next to the saw body. Not spraying on everything to the right of were you are working. This can be especially useful working inside a house or if you want to cut down on general shop clean up.
      I remove the cover plate and put the splinter guard back on when it really matters. Or the other way round for cutting close to an edge.
      You can actually leave the CP (Cover Plate) on for about half of the bevel range, It just needs to be adjusted out away from the saw body to allow the saw to tip. The openings in the blade shroud will not be closed off, but the dust is still prevented from blowing out to the right.  I did this just a couple days ago when beveling a board along its edge.
     One other thing is that the CP is also a guide to run up against a wall or the like. Say when cutting floor near a wall, or something of that nature. That is why the plate is covered by that brown (phenolic?) material, like on the router bases, along the lower edge.
     I used the ATF55 for several years without the plate, and have used the TS55 both ways enough to know that I like using the cover plate for the given situations.

Hi,   Here is an update to this review with some more info and pics.

   O.K. I took some more pics and did some test cuts.  I was not able to get any good pics that would actually show the dust but I will describe the results. I used a piece of MDF and made the same edge and kerf cuts for each saw set up.

         First I cut with no CP ( Cover Plate ) and no Tape. A good size cloud of dust was blowing out the front of the saw and all over everything within 2 - 3' to the right. As well as drifting into the air all over the shop.

         Second I made the same cuts with tape covering the two openings on the side of the housing as suggested by Eli.  This did a good job and kept most of the dust in check. And is worth doing in conjunction with the Splinter Guard.

        Third  I used the CP.  This did a very good job of controling the dust with some blowing out in front of the saw, and none to the right.

       
     I would say that the tape does about 50% - 75% of what the CP does. If you want some improvment without shelling out any money go with the tape. If you are after the most DC you can get then get the CP. Wether or not it is worth the $40 USD is going to be highly subjective. For my use I feel that it has been worth buying. Not being able to use the Splinter Guard is irrelevent for many of the cuts were the CP helps because these are often trim cuts that are either nothing but dust or scrap. To be honest I used the ATF55 (which does not have the splinter guard) for years and had no real splintering problems in most materials anyway.
       The additional pics show the saw with tape.
       The lower edge gap that the plate covers.
       The possible use of the Splinter Guard with the CP as a dust deflector.
Seth

srs
 
So Seth,
  If I understand you, the splinter guard has to be removed to use the cover plate? ???
Mike
 
Hi,

      Yes, the green splinter guard on the saw has to be removed to use the cover plate. Of course if you are using the ATF55 it doesn't matter because it doesn't have the splinter guard anyway.  I think that it would be possible to build a cover plate with an arch up over the splinter guardand back down to the front rod. So that both could be used.

Seth
 
Eli said:
Yeah. A piece of painter's tape, duct tape, whatever.

  Yes, I am sure that would work on the openings.  The cover plate actually comes down closer to the work piece also. It closes off most of the roughly 1/4" (6mm) gap along the bottom edge of the housing between the work surface and the housing edge.  I will try to remember to do a test comparing tape to the cover plate.
      I think I have some bright green duct tape around here somewere ;)

Seth
 
Hi,  This update has also been added to my review that started this thread at the top in order to keep the review information all in one post.

    O.K. I took some more pics and did some test cuts.  I was not able to get any good pics that would actually show the dust but I will describe the results. I used a piece of MDF and made the same edge and kerf cuts for each saw set up.

          First I cut with no CP ( Cover Plate ) and no Tape. A good size cloud of dust was blowing out the front of the saw and all over everything within 2 - 3' to the right. As well as drifting into the air all over the shop.

          Second I made the same cuts with tape covering the two openings on the side of the housing as suggested by Eli.  This did a good job and kept most of the dust in check. And is worth doing in conjunction with the Splinter Guard.

         Third  I used the CP.  This did a very good job of controling the dust with some blowing out in front of the saw, and none to the right.

         Neither the tape nor the CP make a big difference when not cutting at or near the edge of a piece. But there is some improvement.

      I would say that the tape does about 50% - 75% of what the CP does. If you want some improvment without shelling out any money go with the tape. If you are after the most DC you can get then get the CP. Wether or not it is worth the $40 USD is going to be highly subjective. For my use I feel that it has been worth buying. Not being able to use the Splinter Guard is irrelevent for many of the cuts were the CP helps because these are often trim cuts that are either nothing but dust or scrap. To be honest I used the ATF55 (which does not have the splinter guard) for years and had no real splintering problems in most materials anyway.
        The additional pics show the saw with tape.
        The lower edge gap that the plate covers.
        The possible use of the Splinter Guard with the CP as a dust deflector.

 
Thanks for this information ... the past couple of days I have been making a number of small trim cuts and noticed all of the dust not being collected. Since I have been trying harder to get dust under control, this looks like it is a workable solution for taking that extra step in dust collection with the TS55 -- good work!
 
Yeah, I mean of course tape won't do as good a job. But it works okay. Haven't gotten the dust keepensucker yet. As mentioned previously, it's only those edge cut, etc. situations. I think actually Tinker or somebody had mentioned the tape earlier somewhere else, so it wasn't my brilliance, just monkey see, monkey doo-doo.
 
I missed the posting of the tape idea.  I'll have to try that.  Did some "jointing" with my TS55 this weekend and saw more dust I expected. 

Thanks!

PaulD
 
Hi,  A little update.

        After using the Cover Plate for a more extended period of time. And just a couple days ago making about a hundred cuts in 3/4" plywood,  some with and some without ( splinter guard in place). There is no doubt that the CP improves DC a good amount even on non edge cuts. I think the plywood dust showed a bit more than the MDF that I had tested with.  It will be on my saw unless I really need the Splinter guard.

Seth
 
Seth,

What size hose are you using with the saw? I switched to the 36mm AS hose and dust is even more of a thing of the past. The larger hose also works very well with the 1400 router. Much greater air flow and dust/chip collection is improved!

Thanks

Dave
 
I was not aware that such an accessory even existed (part # 491 750). This is the first mention I have ever heard. Out here in God's country the Pony Express can be pretty slow at times. Will this part work with the ATF 55, the older saw? From what I can see it appears that it would, but the Festool website says it's for the TS 55.
 
Hergy said:
I was not aware that such an accessory even existed (part # 491 750). This is the first mention I have ever heard. Out here in God's country the Pony Express can be pretty slow at times. Will this part work with the ATF 55, the older saw? From what I can see it appears that it would, but the Festool website says it's for the TS 55.

Hi,

        The one for the TS55 will not fit the ATF55. It has a different mounting method.  The ATF cover plate is not listed in the accessorry section in the 2007 US catalog , but I know it used to be available. I remember seeing it in an older catalog before the TS55 came out. Perhaps one of the dealers could still get one or possibly has one left. Try posting in the sales question area.

Seth
 
David Makseyn said:
Seth,

What size hose are you using with the saw? I switched to the 36mm AS hose and dust is even more of a thing of the past. The larger hose also works very well with the 1400 router. Much greater air flow and dust/chip collection is improved!

Thanks

Dave
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Hi,

  I am using the D36 hose. I originally bought it for the router, but I too find that it improves the DC on the TS55 also.

Seth
 
I see in the picture you have the side of the saw taped up.

While in Vegas and chatting with the head of tool tech Dave McGibbon this subject came up.

He theorized that this was not a good idea as it actually restricts airflow,
and the saw was designed with those holes in mind.
Just a thought fellas.  I mean if it works for you and your happy and all...

Per
 
Per my TS75  shoots to much dust out of that area. I almost taped it last night. it could not be any worse with the tape. I will let you know what happens tonight while I am working. That TS75 is making more dust than my DeWalt router connected to the Ct33.

Any other ideas than what is presented in this thread so far? They all look pretty good Seth's post is a pretty simple, but elegant solution. Wonder why Festool no longer offers that for the newer TS75 saws.

Nickao
 
Per Swenson said:
While in Vegas and chatting with the head of tool tech Dave McGibbon this subject came up.

He theorized that this was not a good idea as it actually restricts airflow,
and the saw was designed with those holes in mind.
Just a thought fellas.  I mean if it works for you and your happy and all...

Nothing wrong with listening to the experts.  But there's nothing wrong with keeping your eyes open and trying an idea, especially if it costs a couple cents and a few minutes' time, and the results are very easy to see.  No need to take anyone's word, whether Seth's or Dave's.

I have the ATF-55, which can't use the cover plate that fits the TS55.  Does the cover plate cover the hole on the side of the shroud?  If so, does the design somehow still preserve the air flow through that hole.  If not, why did Festool design it that way if it impairs dust collection?

Also interesting that Seth finds DC on the TS55 improved by switching to the 36mm hose, an idea I've seen rejected either here or on the old forum at some point.

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan from a speech he gave in 1963, the problem isn't ignorance, it's knowing things that just aren't so.  Not referring to anyone in particular...it applies to me as well.

Regards,

John
 
I can verify that Seth's assertion is correct. The DC does improve with the bigger hose. I found that out last night with a TS 75. Its almost a joke using the little hose in comparison. At least in my shop with my tools.

Nickao
 
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