CT Floor Nozzle questions

[iamnothim]

Hey guys & gals.  I need your input.

I own a CT-Midi for all my Festool machines.  I love it so much I want to buy another for indoor use.  I'll probably get a CT-26 then clean up the Midi and use it as an indoor vac.  I have a lot of hardwood floors downstairs and, for now, carpet upstairs.  My son has bad allergies so I am hoping the HEPA filter will some.  My plan is to get an extra hose for the "inside Midi" so it will reach a long way and reduce pulling the machine around.

Questions:
1) Any problem with running a double hose?
2) Do I need anti-static hoses for an indoor vac?
3) Any opinions on the "Multi-Purpose" Floor Nozzle?
4) Same question on the "Turbo Suction" Brush?
The Turbo requires 36mm.  Sounds bulky and a pain to make the 36mm hose work with a Midi unless the attachment is a must have.  I'm thinking the 36mm hose won't be very convenient for inside.  Storage, etc.

Thanks for posting

Luke

 

[tbellemare]

This is how we clean our house...

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That's a CT MINI, Universal cleaning Set, and Turbo Suction Brush (for carpet). My wife has allergies also...

Tom

 

[iamnothim]

This is how we clean our house...

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That's a CT MINI, Universal cleaning Set, and Turbo Suction Brush (for carpet). My wife has allergies also...

Tom

Duh.
Like you're going to buy a Hoover

 

[iamnothim]

sorry.
Couldn't resist.

 

[greg mann]

Miele SBB-300 floor brush for hard floors. Best there is for manueverability and it fits on a Festool wand perfectly. That said, the basic Festool cleaning set is very nice. For housework you don't need the steel set and the plastic kit will not leave any marks on walls or baseboards. Adding the Miele head just makes it easier to get into corners and around furniture legs etc. If you want to upgrade to a better head I think this is the one to get. you don't need turbo capability for hard floors.

 

[iamnothim]

Miele SBB-300 floor brush for hard floors. Best there is for manueverability and it fits on a Festool wand perfectly. That said, the basic Festool cleaning set is very nice. For housework you don't need the steel set and the plastic kit will not leave any marks on walls or baseboards. Adding the Miele head just makes it easier to get into corners and around furniture legs etc. If you want to upgrade to a better head I think this is the one to get. you don't need turbo capability for hard floors.

Very Interesting.
Thanks

 

[AlexThePalex]

For cleaning, you don't need an AS hose, but I would sincerely recommend you get a 36 mm hose. The 27 mm hose is just too thin and suction is not what it could or should be. This becomes worse if you want longer lenghts. Also, get the metal wand. The plastic wand is just too weak and bends constantly.

I do all my indoor cleaning with a CT26, 36 mm non-as hose and (unfortunately) still the plastic wand and the standard floor nozzle. It works great.

 

[tbellemare]

The plastic wand is just too weak and bends constantly.

I've had the Universal Cleaning Kit since '06 and have used it quite often. The tubes in the image above are from it. My wife has been using that set up for a few years to clean our house and I'd estimate she vacuums at least twice a week. I've never had any issues with the plastic tubes bending. They are quite rigid.

Do you have a way to demonstrate what you mean?

Thanks,

Tom

 

[wow]

1) Any problem with running a double hose?

Nope, none at all. Shane posted a chart on acceptable hose lengths a while back. I'll see if I can find it for you...

 

[wow]

Found it:

http://festoolownersgroup.com/ask-festool/hose-length/msg337860/#msg337860

 

[mike_aa]

I've had the Universal Cleaning Kit since '06 and have used it quite often. The tubes in the image above are from it. My wife has been using that set up for a few years to clean our house and I'd estimate she vacuums at least twice a week. I've never had any issues with the plastic tubes bending. They are quite rigid.

Do you have a way to demonstrate what you mean?

Thanks,

Tom

OK, Tom, when is it your turn to do the vacuuming? [eek]

Mike A.

 

[iamnothim]

Found it:

http://festoolownersgroup.com/ask-festool/hose-length/msg337860/#msg337860

Cool.  thanks

I just placed an order with Tom for a CT-26, The Turbo head, and the 497702 kit with wand head and 3.5M x 35mm non-antistatic hose and Systainer 5.

I can always experiment with doubling the two 27mm hoses I'll have to see if it will be an advantage getting a second 35mm hose for inside.

 

[tbellemare]

OK, Tom, when is it your turn to do the vacuuming? [eek]

Mike A.

Every time my shop is dirty...

Also, any time my Honey doesn't feel like it, but wants it done.

Tom

 

[iamnothim]

OK, Tom, when is it your turn to do the vacuuming? [eek]

Mike A.

Every time my shop is dirty...

Also, any time my Honey doesn't feel like it, but wants it done.

Tom

I actually enjoy vacuuming with my CT

 

[AlexThePalex]

The plastic wand is just too weak and bends constantly.

I've had the Universal Cleaning Kit since '06 and have used it quite often. The tubes in the image above are from it. My wife has been using that set up for a few years to clean our house and I'd estimate she vacuums at least twice a week. I've never had any issues with the plastic tubes bending. They are quite rigid.

Do you have a way to demonstrate what you mean?

My house has carpet, and to get that clean sometimes you really have to scrub it with quite some force. When I do that I feel the tubes bending constantly, due to the elasticity of the plastic. I don't like it. Feels like a straw. Not rigid at all.

It is less of a problem when you have a hard floor like tiles of laminate. The nozzle just slides over it without much force. When I go somewhere to do a job I don't mind the plastic tubes for the quick clean up afterwards. But in the house I really prefer the metal tubes, much better for a good rough scrub. Too bad I don't have them yet. 

I'm alone at home right now, so I can't really take a picture to show how bendy they can be.

 

[mike_aa]

OK, Tom, when is it your turn to do the vacuuming? [eek]

Mike A.

Every time my shop is dirty...

Also, any time my Honey doesn't feel like it, but wants it done.

Tom

Awww, that is so sweet! ;D

 

[tbellemare]

My house has carpet, and to get that clean sometimes you really have to scrub it with quite some force. When I do that I feel the tubes bending constantly, due to the elasticity of the plastic. I don't like it. Feels like a straw. Not rigid at all.

It is less of a problem when you have a hard floor like tiles of laminate. The nozzle just slides over it without much force. When I go somewhere to do a job I don't mind the plastic tubes for the quick clean up afterwards. But in the house I really prefer the metal tubes, much better for a good rough scrub. Too bad I don't have them yet. 

I'm alone at home right now, so I can't really take a picture to show how bendy they can be.

We have carpet in about half, or so, of our house currently. I think I understand your desire to scrub it. We use the turbo brush regularly and I think it does a good job. My wife is happy with it and she's an allergy sufferer.

I'm in the process of recreating the house, with no more popcorn ceilings and little or no carpet. I think those two things will make the house more friendly to allergy sufferers.

I'm always open to suggestions from those that know more than me, however...

Tom

 

[RKA]

Alex, generally speaking, you shouldn't be pushing the spinning brush into the carpet pile.  If that's what you are doing, you may be prematurely wearing the carpet fibers.  You should be adjusting the height setting and let the brush head do the work.

http://web.mohawkflooring.com/blog/bid/257801/How-to-Choose-the-Right-Vacuum-for-Your-Carpet-Type

Back to the original question about the AS hose.  If you're using a length long enough that it's being dragged across the ground, you may appreciate that the AS hose won't accumulate hair and dust.  I have a non-AS nose in the garage that's used to clean the cars.  It's covered in dog hair. 

And while the larger diameter of the 36mm hose might be preferred for the suck, in a longer length, the weight might be a drag.  Also, with a midi you lose the ability to tug the hose and have the vac follow along.  The hose connection is in the back over the fixed wheels and the large hose doesn't fit through the slot in the front of the hose garage (over the swiveling wheels).  So the vacuum either wants to tip over or make left or right turns instead of toward you.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Alex, generally speaking, you shouldn't be pushing the spinning brush into the carpet pile.

I don't have the spinning brush, just the standard floor nozzle of the compact cleaning kit.

 

[iamnothim]

Alex, generally speaking, you shouldn't be pushing the spinning brush into the carpet pile.  If that's what you are doing, you may be prematurely wearing the carpet fibers.  You should be adjusting the height setting and let the brush head do the work.

http://web.mohawkflooring.com/blog/bid/257801/How-to-Choose-the-Right-Vacuum-for-Your-Carpet-Type

Back to the original question about the AS hose.  If you're using a length long enough that it's being dragged across the ground, you may appreciate that the AS hose won't accumulate hair and dust.  I have a non-AS nose in the garage that's used to clean the cars.  It's covered in dog hair. 

Hmmm.  I see the picture

And while the larger diameter of the 36mm hose might be preferred for the suck, in a longer length, the weight might be a drag.  Also, with a midi you lose the ability to tug the hose and have the vac follow along.  The hose connection is in the back over the fixed wheels and the large hose doesn't fit through the slot in the front of the hose garage (over the swiveling wheels).  So the vacuum either wants to tip over or make left or right turns instead of toward you.

That sucks. 
Wait!  Maybe I can use a "Vectro" to mod the hose caddy!!!! [big grin]

Really need to think the 35mm over if that's the case.  Tom?

I guess I'll find out when it arrives.