ct48 with 3hp Sawstop???

[CutsTwice]

I hope I'm posting this in the right area.

I'm going to buy a 3hp Sawstop in a couple of months, and I'm wondering about a couple of things.
1. This table saw will be out in the middle of the floor, and putting a 3 hp dust collector anywhere near it is going to be a pain. Has anyone tried to use a Sawstop with the dust collection blade guard with a CT 48? I don't mind emptying the bag regularly, but it will need to keep up with the dust coming out of that saw.

2. The main reason I'm thinking about the CT48 is because I might get an 52 inch Incra TS-LS fence to put on the saw, and therefore will need to collect dust from a 3hp router as well. My thought was to build my own gates and hook both the Sawstop and the Porter cable router to the vacuum.

3. If you have tried putting the 52 inch Incra TS-LS on a Sawstop, and wish you would have just put the router somewhere else with it's own fence please tell me why. I'm torn on the "to combine or not to combine" issue.

Thanks for the help
J.

 

[semenza]

Well the size of CT won't matter for suction or CFM air flow, only for the emptying intervals.  My thinking is that both table saws and router tables collect better  with  4" DC line than a vac. Can you put a regular DC elsewhere  and run a line to the table saw / router table? Also even with the CT48 you will be emptying all the time from the router table.

My general feeling about combined tools (table saw / router table) is that seperates are almost always better if you have the space.

Seth

 

[CutsTwice]

I can put a 4 inch line under the concrete if I feel like dragging out the rotary hammer, but man, whatta pain. [smile]

 

[semenza]

I can put a 4 inch line under the concrete if I feel like dragging out the rotary hammer, but man, whatta pain. [smile]

It couldn't hang from above?

Seth

 

[CutsTwice]

It's questionable, but I might be able to rig it up similar to yours (which looks pretty slick altogether). Everything to the right is going to be very tight. I'm even having my furnace moved to accommodate this saw, so I'll have to wait and see what happens with the ductwork.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

I think you will be A LOT happier with a minimum 4" dust collection system instead of using a Festool CT or another company's vacuum.  You need to move a very high volume (CFM) of air.

 

[CutsTwice]

Sound like I had better get the 4 inch over there somehow.

I just found this pic, and it shows the Incra configuration that I would like to put on my saw, but I can't find one that matches at Incra's website. Does anyone know if this is a set or if someone just started ordering parts?

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[Ken Nagrod]

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[CutsTwice]

That's what I suspected, but I feel better now that somebody else thinks so too. I already have a 17 inch positioner and wonder fence laying around, so If I order the TS-LS I think I can get pretty close to the same setup.

Thanks for pointing out the distance of the micro adjuster, I hadn't noticed that.

 

[JSands]

Incra, really had something unique, before digital scales have become so cheap and accurate....
In case you are not fully committed, think twice about Incra.... many of us have a love/hate relationship with it... that long positioner is hard to deal with, specially if you keep a router table on the opposite end... 

as for Festool Vac for cabinet saw... I would say major mistake... really requires a 4" type dust collection...

 

[semenza]

How about going with a small DC, one of those with a single bag that is horizontal? Maybe not the best  in performance, but if the set / space is really an issue....... it could fit under the saw extension.

Or just get rid of the furnace entirely  [eek] Who needs that in the way  :

Seth

 

[GreenGA]

Yesterday, I received an email from Incra with a special sale on, I believe, that configuration. Regular price is about 750, more or less, and the final price, with new discount and special sale, brings it down to around 610 or so.  Add 35 for the wider Sawstop version.

I just found this pic, and it shows the Incra configuration that I would like to put on my saw, but I can't find one that matches at Incra's website. Does anyone know if this is a set or if someone just started ordering parts?
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[GreenGA]

My guys have tried this very configuration and it is not a working combination.  It gets some dust but the shop needs a complete vac-over after they finish what they were doing.

Follow Ken Nagrod's, and other's, suggestion. You'll be much happier.

I hope I'm posting this in the right area.

I'm going to buy a 3hp Sawstop in a couple of months, and I'm wondering about a couple of things.
1. This table saw will be out in the middle of the floor, and putting a 3 hp dust collector anywhere near it is going to be a pain. Has anyone tried to use a Sawstop with the dust collection blade guard with a CT 48? I don't mind emptying the bag regularly, but it will need to keep up with the dust coming out of that saw.

2. The main reason I'm thinking about the CT48 is because I might get an 52 inch Incra TS-LS fence to put on the saw, and therefore will need to collect dust from a 3hp router as well. My thought was to build my own gates and hook both the Sawstop and the Porter cable router to the vacuum.

3. If you have tried putting the 52 inch Incra TS-LS on a Sawstop, and wish you would have just put the router somewhere else with it's own fence please tell me why. I'm torn on the "to combine or not to combine" issue.

Thanks for the help
J.

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Just get a bigger dust pan.

 

[bruegf]

I think you could use the CT for just the blade guard dust port, and in fact it might work better than a regular DC on the blade guard port because the port is only 1.5" dia, but a real DC with 4 or 5" runs would be much better for the under blade dust collection.

I have the sawstop saw and dust collection was much better once I added a DC and used the 4" port instead of the 2.5" port for a shop vac.

Fred

 

[GhostFist]

I'm no longer sold on saw stop saws

 

[CutsTwice]

Why not Ghostfist? Do you own one that has problems?

 

[ccarrolladams]

In addition to a Holzma Pressure Beam saw and a Felder Format 4 Kappa 550 e-motion slider saw, I do have a SawStop 7.5hp 480v 3ph  Industrial cabinet saw with a 52" fence system and the optional overarm dust collection. Both the main below table dust shroud and the blade guard are connected to my shop dust collection system. Based on extensive air quality tests performed when I was getting all the licenses for my shop in 2010, the claims by SawStop about 99% dust collection with these options installed are conservative. All of those saws collect virtually all the dust generated in operation.

I also must say the accuracy and cut-quality of my SawStop is as good as the larger saws. Although our Felder slider and the SawStop are designed to handle sheet material effectively, because we own the Holzma beam saw it turns out most of the time the Felder and the SawStop are devoted to sawing solid lumber. Each has more than enough power to handle these tasks.

My long experience has been that all saws, especially table saws, need enough power to make excellent cut quality when equipped with appropriate blades. It is true often a blade designed for top cut quality will not be the most efficient in terms of power consumption. It is well known that blades with fewer and larger teeth can make the same cuts using less power, but at a sacrifice of cut quality.

In my experience the reduction in power from using an aggressive blade on the table saw is lost because of extra passes needed for clean-up on a joiner and planer.

To more directly answer the OP's question, I have never met a SawStop owner who has tried using a CT of any model to do the dust collecting from this kind of table saw. SawStop makes a 1.75hp 14a, 120v, 1ph contractor saw. Perhaps they consider 265 pounds to be a portable job-site saw. I have read about someone using a CT33 with a 50mmAS hose to collect dust from one of those on sites. Mind you I have not met the author of that report. None of my in-person friends have ever taken any SawStop onto a site without also taking a powerful dust collection system.