CTL SYS Now on Festool UK website

[BMAC]

Not sure if someone else has posted this YouTube of the new DustCollector so here it is



I will be utterly disappointed in festool if this is a NAINA item as I'd gladly buy it to use on my condo jobs rather than use my CT36AC which is pretty bulky and heavy for most of the types of jobs I do. What would be even more disappointing is if it indeed becomes available in the US but not here in Canada as Other Festools have.

 

[BMAC]

Unfortunately, most posters on FOG all know what what the acronym NAINA means (for those even newer than me here it is Not Available In North America).

But, unfortunately I feel there should be also another acronym called AEBC which stands for Available Everywhere But Canada as there are a number of tools that Festool has not met (or chosen not to?....) the Canadian Standards Association (CSA) safety certifications to allow the product(s) to be sold her in Canada.

Hopefully, the CTL SYS makes here as well as the States [scratch chin]

I'm just expressing frustration at not being able to access more of the uber tools that I know will help me be more efficient on my jobs so I can afford to buy more Festools

 

[wow]

Bruce:

As someone who has purchased a Festool item from the EU because it wasn't available here - even with the hassle associated with doing so - I understand a little bit about what you are going through.

Please bring me up to date as my knowledge is 20 years old. Is the CSA certification required or checked on sites, or is it just a requirement to offer it for sale like it used to be? I guess what I am getting at is - since our power systems are compatible - could you use US tools if you could get them?

I am not dismissing the issues of Canadian availability, warranty, etc. - just trying to understand if there are ANY options for you? It seems like this should all be easier to fix than, say, the time you guys have been without the CT Midi would indicate?

 

[mrboult]

Awesome!!

I put this down on the FOG wish list thread just a couple of months ago. It's already here!!  [eek]

I am so glad I saw this as I have literally been planing to make my own sys-vac in the next couple of weeks. This new festool design is kind of exactly like what I had decided upon. . . Inc the dual systainer design, but mine was going to have the electrics in a sys 2 on the top, and the bag in a sys 2 on the bottom.

And while I am kind of sad that I now won't bother creating my design, I just know Festool's version will be better, easier and have a 3 year warranty.  SOLD!

 

[BMAC]

Bruce:

As someone who has purchased a Festool item from the EU because it wasn't available here - even with the hassle associated with doing so - I understand a little bit about what you are going through.

Please bring mr up to date as my knowledge is 20 years old. Is the CSA certification required or checked on sites, or is it just a requirement to offer it for sale like it used to be? I guess what I am getting at is - since our power systems are compatible - could you use US tools if you could get them?

I am not dismissing the issues of Canadian availability, warranty, etc. - just trying to understand if there are ANY options for you? It seems like this should all be easier to fix than, say, the time you guys have been without the CT Midi would indicate?

As far as the Government Worker Comp Inspectors are concerned, depending on the Provincial legislation there is a requirement for certain machinery, tools and equipment to have a valid CSA sticker to be used on a job site. Mostly, the regulations center around PPE, ladders, lock outs, mechanic hoists and there is vague references to tools so maybe a loophole there

At my prior company we acquired a specialized contents cleaning system called Fireline from the states $50K) and it carried full CE and UL certification, but no CSA. My H&S Manager would not green light the installation and we had to get the US manufacturer to get CSA certification which they did as we were going to buy multiple systems for branches across Canada. It's not that the CSA is a better certification standard than CE or UL, just bureaucracy or more hoops for importers to jump through.

I'd still buy it from the states and plead ignorance... Did I say that?

When I lived near Vancouver the border was 10 minutes away and we'd even shop at the Costco in Washington state as it was closer and cheaper for us for many things and I always declared everything and most often never paid duty unless it was a large purchase made in places other than Canada, Mexico or USA, under NAFTA there are few if any duties payable. Sadly, I'm a 5 hour drive to the States now....

I'll most certainly make a trip south of the border to pick up this DC up if it ends up available there and it's deemed as AEBC [tongue]

 

[BMAC]

I do have relatives living in Montana and California and I guess I could wire them the money to buy it for me and ship it to Canada.

 

[NL-mikkla]

So glad I live in Europe....all the rules you guys have to deal with and the lack of availability because of those rules  [crying]

Really like the looks on this little vac!

 

[dimonml]

In CTL SYS vacuum motor has through-flow or bypass cooling?

 

[fdeloncker]

BEA utiful. I have been dreaming this idea up for sometime now. I hope it comes to the states. Every time I carry my midi around I think "this thing is the same size as sys 5...hmmm"

 

[Peterm]

List price is £300 inc. VAT, but I've already had a price from a dealer of £229.

Was that a 'special to you' price JRB? Dealer prices I've seen so far seem to be shaking out around the £250 - £270 range, inc VAT, for pre-orders.

TIA, Pete

 

[jonny round boy]

List price is £300 inc. VAT, but I've already had a price from a dealer of £229.

Was that a 'special to you' price JRB? Dealer prices I've seen so far seem to be shaking out around the £250 - £270 range, inc VAT, for pre-orders.

TIA, Pete

No, that was just the price that Jon (aka roadkilled) got when he rang N&B. They haven't got it on their website yet though, so no confirmation.

 

[promhandicam]

every time I carry my midi around I think "this thing is the same size as sys 5...hmmm"

. . . and then I think " I am really pleased those clever people at Festool invented little round things to stick on the bottom of my midi so I can pull it along rather than having to lug it about"

Think I will stick with my midi which needs emptying far less frequently ( a pain to do if you are at a customers) and with the variable suction it can be used for sanding.

 

[Peterm]

Was that a 'special to you' price JRB? Dealer prices I've seen so far seem to be shaking out around the £250 - £270 range, inc VAT, for pre-orders.

No, that was just the price that Jon (aka roadkilled) got when he rang N&B. They haven't got it on their website yet though, so no confirmation.

Ah, OK, be interesting to see what they come up with; FFX have it at £250, Brighton Tools at £270. Just out of interest you can get a Midi for £254 from N&B; they're typically a bit cheaper than the rest of the usual suspects.
Thanks!

 

[Peterm]

every time I carry my midi around I think "this thing is the same size as sys 5...hmmm"

. . . and then I think " I am really pleased those clever people at Festool invented little round things to stick on the bottom of my midi so I can pull it along rather than having to lug it about"

"...and then I get to the first of 3 flights of stairs, and those little round things don't work so well" 

Think I will stick with my midi...

Well, that's the beauty of choice, right? Personally, I'll be adding one alongside a Midi as I expect it to be ideal for the kind of work I do, but if it doesn't fit your needs, then sure, stick with what you have.

Cheers, Pete

 

[pingvinlakrits]

I am with Peter on this. Last time I carried the MIDI with something on top I wished I was a little bit taller. Every inch counts. And don't forget about the weight! I am as strong as the next scrawny guy but I like 'em light.

I have a dedicated small space where the MIDI does not fit with a SYS on top but the CTL SYS will make it just fine. Awesome.

 

[Woodchippie]

I would probably use with Sys cart or Sys roller[attachimg=1]

 

[promhandicam]

The Sys roll - another good idea but with a glaring design fault - no way of fixing a systainer to the base, so if you try to pick a systainer up by the handle the two separate. I bought one with a couple of other items as the basis of my mobile tool box but trying to carry it is not easy.

 

[msc]

The Sys roll - another good idea but with a glaring design fault - no way of fixing a systainer to the base, so if you try to pick a systainer up by the handle the two separate. I bought one with a couple of other items as the basis of my mobile tool box but trying to carry it is not easy.

Unbelievable, good job you let me know, I was going to get one. I ordered the roll board which Gary let us blow about on another thread at a good price. I wish I ordered 2 now because I was thinking about getting this. I won't be buying this now, shame.

 

[promhandicam]

I did consider drilling a couple of holes through the bottom of the sortainer and attaching it with a couple of bolts but occasionally I do want to remove the sortainer and if it was bolted on it would be too much hassle.

 

[Woodchippie]

Yes,Promhandicam, I see what you mean, but I don't use it this way. I tend to load and unload the Sys roller at the van with what I need. I put it in the van empty. It would be difficult to pick up fully loaded with systainers. I did try lying it down in the van with systainers attached but that doesn't work, like you stated the base one is not attached so there's nothing to stop them moving out.