ctl26 auto delay

[jmac80]

Hello
Trying out my new ctl26 autoclean today.
I use the front power socket on the ctl26 so the extractor auto starts when i power the tool.
How much of a delay is there on your festool extractors between starting the tool and then the extractor auto powering on?
Mine is about 3 seconds which seems very delayed, shouldn't it be instant? if i was doing lots of small mitre cuts it would hardly even get a chance to ever come on? The dewalt extractor i recently returned auto turned on instantly as i would expect.
Thanks

 

[jmac80]

Just to add, I'm running it in normal mode with a bag and autoclean turned off.
Thanks

 

[peter halle]

There is a delay to make sure that the tool can come up to speed with all the various controlling electronics and soft starts. It also helps with amp draw and allows the combo of the CT and tool to be used on most "normal" circuits. If you are using the Kapex for instance you need to adapt and slow down or you will have more non-captured dust.  I know I had an a transition period.

I admit that I have never timed the delay so I can't tell you if yours is too long.

Peter

 

[jmac80]

Good answer and makes good sense, thanks
I guess like you say maybe a little getting used to it.

edit: i guess if i was doing lots of small repetitive cuts i could just put it to the "on" position and no "auto"

I seen Peter parfitt had a small remote control to turn his extractor on and off, may look into something like that.

 

[jmac80]

How long roughly until your extractor turns off after powering down the tool?

 

[Wuffles]

Mine comes on within 3 seconds, easily. Probably less than 1 second - but not timed it. Runs on for about a second maybe 2 after turning off the tool.

 

[toykiter]

You want it to be long so the hose and exhaust of your tool is all free of the debris. If it would stop right away with tool hose would get plugged with dirt in no time. I think its is only about just under 2 sec. I also noticed that Fain stays on much longer. Overall its a good thing.

 

[Wuffles]

He's talking about at startup, not warm down isn't he? 3 seconds at start up is ridiculous, mines not an AC model but 3 seconds is far too much..

 

[FinishingCanuck]

I have never noticed any delay on start up with my ct26. Seems u have issues with your vac. 3 seconds per cut would make a tool stay in the box (if it were mine)

 

[jmac80]

Yes I'm talking about the start up.
Was out trying again last night and it's definitely about 2-3 seconds, slows me down getting stuff done.

 

[Wuffles]

Not having much luck are you. Hope it's not a thing with the AC models, although I can't see why I would be, but it's the only difference between what I am comparing it with.

 

[AlexThePalex]

It is called "soft start" by most manufacturers, and it is done by design. When a power tool starts up, it draws a higher current than normal because the rotor has to get moving. This peak current is higher than what your power tool is rated at, and consequentially can be higher than what the fuse in the breaker box is rated for, making it trip.

I also find the delay in start for the vac a bit annoying, but what can you do? If both the tool and the vac would start at the exact same time, you would be running down to the fuse box all the time, and that would be a lot more annoying.

 

[Wuffles]

Thanks for clarifying that Alex.

So anyway, soft start shouldn't be 3 seconds and isn't on mine. So I am assuming it's either a problem, some hidden setting or something specific to the AC version.

 

[jmac80]

Just checking videos on youtube

Peter is yours like this one?
about 30 seconds in.
That's how i thought mine would work.
If i turned on and off the sander that quick my ctl26 wouldn't even come on.

Thanks James

 

[Wuffles]

Exactly how mine operates.

 

[jmac80]

Thanks wuffles,
Like i say that's how i expected it to operate, will call the dealer tomorrow and see what we can come up with.
cheers james

 

[jmac80]

Tried my small makita sander this morning, It actually turns the extractor on very quickly just like the video above.
So it seems to vary depending on the power draw of the tool.

Makita sander- Nearly instant
Domino df500 - about 1 second
Dewalt 780 mitre saw - about 2-3 seconds
record bs400 bandsaw - about 3 seconds

 

[Wuffles]

Tried my small makita sander this morning, It actually turns the extractor on very quickly just like the video above.
So it seems to vary depending on the power draw of the tool.

Makita sander- Nearly instant
Domino df500 - about 1 second
Dewalt 780 mitre saw - about 2-3 seconds
record bs400 bandsaw - about 3 seconds

I've got a BS400 to test it with if you like. Will get back to you later.

 

[jmac80]

Nice one thanks wuffles  ;D

Once the bandsaw pretty much gets to speed the vac is on and ready as the band saw takes a few seconds to get going.
On a side note about the bs400.. I'm looking at getting some after market ceramic guides for mine. was looking at something like this: http://www.lagunatools.com/accessories/bandsaw-guides/Laguna-Guide-Set-to-Retro-Fit-Euro-Guides#
know of anyone in UK / EU that does ceramic guides that will fit the bs400?

 

[itasor]

If I'm making a lot of small/fast cuts with my miter saw connected to the CT26, I just put it in manual mode and leave it running. It just feels better than having it turn on/off every few seconds and then you don't have to worry about making sure it has fully started up to make the cut, plus it has plenty of time to continue clearing the hose between cuts.