CXS not seating centrotec correctly (another magnet problem?)

[fritter63]

I found today that I couldn't get the drill chuck to seat completely on my CXS. Basically, the quick release collar won't slide down all the way when the chuck is on the CXS shaft. After some experiments, I decided the problem is the CXS shaft itself:

- The chuck will seat on the manual driver and the right angle attachment just fine, so it's not the chuck.
- The right angle attachment also will not seat on the CXS for the same reason.
- The centrotec chuck DOES however seat correctly.

The difference seems to be that the centrotec chuck doesn't have a hex shaft in it.

So I looked a little closer and found the magnet seems to be a little shallow on the CXS shaft (see picture), esp compared to the shaft on the right angle attachment. The depth of that magnet measures 6.33 mm (1/4"). It seems that either

1) the magnet has come partially out (but is wedged in place) , not permitting the shafts on the attachments to go in all the way
2) perhaps another (loose) magnet has gotten in there after coming out of another holder. Is there supposed to be a magnet in the shaft of the  hand driver? THere isn't now and I'm wondering if that's where it came from.

How do I get this fixed? Can't find any way to pull the extra magnet out or drive it in if that's the problem.

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[TOOLTOWN]

I just measured my CXS, the depth inside the shaft is .41" so you do have something inside the shaft. 

Ken

 

[fritter63]

I just measured my CXS, the depth inside the shaft is .41" so you do have something inside the shaft. 

Ken

Thx, is there a magnet in your CXS shaft at all?

 

[nclemmons]

This happened to me.  You can send it to Festool and they can repair.  I could NOT find a way to fix it myself.

Neil

 

[Davej]

Maybe if you had a stronger magnet you could 'pull' the other one out !  just a thought .

 

[fritter63]

Maybe if you had a stronger magnet you could 'pull' the other one out !  just a thought .

I'm wondering if it went in glue side down and re-glued itself!

 

[TOOLTOWN]

Yes, there is a magnet in the CXS shaft to begin with.

Dave,  The problem with "pulling" one magnet with another is that the force applied decreases exponentially with distance.  Since one magnet is in contact with another in the shaft, you would need one many times larger to overcome the pulling force (induced at point of contact) from a distance of .25" away.

Ken

 

[Davej]

Ken . I realise that magnetic force decreases with distance, was thinking more along the lines of  a small piece of steel on the end of a stronger magnet to transfer the power straight to the ' problem' . Maybe a bit of superglue could also work . Drop a blob on something suitable and stick it to the magnet , pull it out and scrape off the glue . Just thoughts to save sending it to fsestool

 

[TOOLTOWN]

A rod with super glue may work.  The main problem is that the superglue may not adhere to the magnet properly since the surface is likely to be very smooth (don't ask why, but I know this from experience).  If you could first scuff the surface and then use superglue you would have a better chance. 

I would need to go look at my old textbooks and crunch some numbers, but even with a steel rod the magnetic force would decrease quickly over the length of the rod.  Just not as quickly as through air.

Ken

 

[johninthecamper]

take battery out and use a electromagnet

 

[peter halle]

Get 2 super magnets and glue them together.  Glue them to the end of a bolt.  Try that.  Or call Festool on Monday.

Peter

 

[fritter63]

take battery out and use a electromagnet

Do they sell those at rite-aid?

 

[fritter63]

Was hoping I'd get a reply from Festool on here today... Guess ill have to call

 

[John Townsend]

Same thing happened to me, but it was in the right angle attachment. In the finish they replaced it with another one. Don't think glue is a good idea what if you glue the magnet to the shaft, then your in a worse predicament. It irritates me that something as simple as a poorly glued magnet can cause such issues, piss poor quality control festool. It cant be that hard to make sure a magnet is glued correctly in the first place.

 

[fritter63]

Just spoke with Festool and I'm sending it in to have the shaft replaced. I did finally locate the source of my extra magnet - it's from my second short bit extender (the one that came with the CXS) that I'd forgotten about while checking all the Centrotec Kit bit holders. Sure enough, the magnet is missing in it. So I'll be sending that along with the CXS.

At once point I had removed a "shorty" bit from the bit extender and put it straight into the CXS where space was tight, and I'm sure that's when the "transfer" occurred.

 

[fanton]

Have a look at this older tread:
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-problems/cxs-drill-stupid-mistake-and-creative-solution/msg122343/#msg122343

Fritz

 

[fritter63]

Probably should have updated.

I called Festool shortly after the OP And they confirmed that I had an extra magnet stuck in there and sent me a return label for warranty.

I then looked around more and found my second magnetic but holder which was missing a magnet. So it must have transferred when switching between the holder and the CXS shaft.

I sent both back and went on a week long business trip.

When I returned home, so did my CXS and a new bit holder. So 1 week turn around, good job Festool!