Dash-Board Basic Bench crosscut setup

Better check the price of 2x4's it might be cheaper to buy the steel unit  [big grin] Just Jk I havent bought a 2x4 since they went over 4 bucks (been on lumber strike) I havent checked lately though.
 
Took me a minute, but I found a pic of kind of what I was talking about for the DIY version. (not my pic just something I found on google) Just a note I would rip down the vertical 2x4 shown in the picture so its just tall enough to allow the lip of the tote to fit plus maybe an extra half inch for some play.  Not only will it help minimize height restraints but screws will be easier to source and cheaper. 
 

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afish said:
I dont understand why you want to raise the rails.  It does nothing to help storage if anything it ruins any storage options. 

You're right, of course, but it's not 100% about storage for me.  A significant portion of the appeal of making changes to the garage door setup is, for me, about aesthetics.  I don't like having the garage door tracks over my head in the middle of the room.

And I'm not positive about this, but I believe that if I raise them, I could also shorten them.  If the door follows the (new, higher) curve in its "open" position, the tracks wouldn't need to come out as far into the room.  That would free up ceiling space, in which case I would have plenty of room to put whatever I want up there outside the footprint of the tracks (which would be either wood storage or a workbench top - I've got plenty of space for totes, etc. elsewhere).
 
afish said:
Better check the price of 2x4's it might be cheaper to buy the steel unit  [big grin] Just Jk I havent bought a 2x4 since they went over 4 bucks (been on lumber strike) I havent checked lately though.

Cute!!!!!
 
Dr. P. Venkman said:
afish said:
I dont understand why you want to raise the rails.  It does nothing to help storage if anything it ruins any storage options. 

You're right, of course, but it's not 100% about storage for me.  A significant portion of the appeal of making changes to the garage door setup is, for me, about aesthetics.  I don't like having the garage door tracks over my head in the middle of the room.

And I'm not positive about this, but I believe that if I raise them, I could also shorten them.  If the door follows the (new, higher) curve in its "open" position, the tracks wouldn't need to come out as far into the room.  That would free up ceiling space, in which case I would have plenty of room to put whatever I want up there outside the footprint of the tracks (which would be either wood storage or a workbench top - I've got plenty of space for totes, etc. elsewhere).

Yes, you are correct, it would shorten the length of the "door tracks by adding some vertical height. I dont think it would be drastic enough to make a huge difference. But thats one of those situations Is the expense and effort worth it?  I would say no personally for me but everyone is different. However eliminating all the clutter the opener adds isnt a ton of work or expense and would offer the best bang for the buck so to speak. Not only is it cleaner but probably much quieter too. Originally I was just showing a picture of the overhead totes as an example of the possibilities If there's room for totes there's room for an MFT top.
 
If you change the track so the door goes higher be for it goes horizontal, you might also need to get stronger or longer springs.
 
Agreed, thats a can of worms scenario in my opinion, for very little reward. 
 
The whole idea of moving the opener to the wall would require switching out the springs (to a torsion spring) and buying new openers. Raising the track is trivial in comparison.
 
I appreciate the opportunity to clarify the initial topic regarding how the fence can be square to the grid of holes on our bench top. We use a carefully designed process during both the installation of the tops and for calibration of the fences to ensure a spot-on setup out of the box for our customers. What is not apparent (or mentioned) in any of the videos is that the fences are made with a certain amount of adjustability that we use during assembly to meticulously align them with the table top, the guide rail bracket, and each other.  We developed this design and approach as a result of frustration with how the competing product makes such a process "challenging," according to many.

In the event that a fence comes out of alignment over time or due to accident, it may be easily and simply realigned using a single hex wrench, straight edge, and large square of your choice.

Thanks,
Rob Schumacher
 
You're very welcome, doc. I'll just add that the guide rail brackets have the unique ability to be finely adjusted to any possible misalignment of top-to-table frame that might be found on other benches. Last, we're close to offering a new accessory called the Outrigger® that's making some noise already.

Rob
 
I’ve seen both the guide rail bracket adjustment and the outrigger in your videos. All of this stuff is incredibly well thought out.

I’ll ask another question, if you don’t mind. Am I reading it right that the pro pack comes with six SpiRail dogs (two  with the rip fence and four with the pair of Un-Paralleled Parallel Guides?

Also, between those accessories, the Track-Stars (largely for rail alignment), and the door and panel supports, is there a number of Spi-Rail dogs you suggest a user of the system might like to have on hand? Obviously, “it depends” is the full answer, but I was curious if you’ve seen a pattern of people wanting more than 6? The setup for a rip with both guides uses all six dogs without any left over for the rail.
 
Unparalleled Parallel Guides come with their own SpiRail Dogs, so we don't actually count them as a pair on their own. Also, we've made a change in the last week with some new and better hardware for the Rip Fence and the upcoming F2 fence, so that they're no longer attached with SpiRail™ Dogs but with special spacers and bolts/knobs.

I'd say that if you'd like to have the Door and Panel Supports (SpiRail™ Dogs included) always at the ready and no swapping of rail dogs to use with your guide rails, then it might be best to request as many pairs as you have guide rails and you'll be all set.

Thank you very much for your compliment! The system represents nine years' work.
 
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