Deciding on the Domino

[jacko9]

I'm leaning towards the 700 now, with the accessories, just seems like the best bet unless the guy at woodcraft talks me out of it, but doubt that will happen haha.  Maybe I'll start selling more stuff and be able to justify getting the 500 down the road, who knows.  Since I'll probably get going with the more expensive one, will probably wait on the dust extractor and just use my shop vac for now.

Just be sure to use a dust/chip extractor of some sort since chip clearance is important with the Domino cutter.  Let us know after you use your new machine what you think about it.  One neat feature I use my XL700 for is thru mortises and use the Sipo tenon for a color highlight when joining Oak or other light color woods.

Jack

 

[Holmz]

I'm leaning towards the 700 now, with the accessories, just seems like the best bet unless the guy at woodcraft talks me out of it, but doubt that will happen haha.  Maybe I'll start selling more stuff and be able to justify getting the 500 down the road, who knows.  Since I'll probably get going with the more expensive one, will probably wait on the dust extractor and just use my shop vac for now.

You need some vacuum attached to it I think.

The matching look of a festool vac is nice much like a speed boat behind a Chevy Suburban with both painted the in same metallic look. Or you could use a house vac to get the chips out, or an old shop vac.

The sales guy likely has a different agenda than you, and a different agenda from me.
If they have both the 500 and the 700 down at the woodcraft, then maybe bringing some wood with you and using them both would provide some greater insight?

And do not forget that you will also be having a spend up for the dominos.
In the end the XL was ~%0 more, the seneca gear was a couple hundred, and a couple of systainers in large and small were a few hundred each... And even getting the XL from Italy (new via ebay) it was still well >$2000 all up.

 

[Holmz]

Kierkegaard commented in the past about this sort
Of thread ,
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-wish-list/next-gen-domino-500-wish-list/?topicseen

 

[JimD]

I don't know which domino to get, I want one too and will probably get the 500 but I enjoy the discussion.  My input is just on the vacuum.  I am very happy with my Rigid shop vacuum pulling through a dust deputy cyclone using a 5 meter Bosch hose.  The Rigid has an aftermarket HEPA filter.  The Bosch hose is relatively inexpensive if you need something to allow you to hook up the Domino.

 

[#Tee]

I don't know which domino to get, I want one too and will probably get the 500 but I enjoy the discussion.  My input is just on the vacuum.  I am very happy with my Rigid shop vacuum pulling through a dust deputy cyclone using a 5 meter Bosch hose.  The Rigid has an aftermarket HEPA filter.  The Bosch hose is relatively inexpensive if you need something to allow you to hook up the Domino.

great time to get the DE with the domino to get the 10% off

 

[Gixxerjoe04]

I plan on using my shop vac for mine, would like to buy a dust extractor but at $1400 for the XL, then getting the adapter, then deciding if I want to get both systainers you're looking at over $2k, and I just ordered a new 15" planer today, trying to not get kicked out of the house haha.  I thought about maybe just getting maybe the 5mm bit and dominos and maybe the 10mm to use for now until I make some more money.  The link that was posted earlier, the guy def had some good points.  Wish you'd get 10% off your purchase when buying a tool and DE instead of just off the DE, that would be nice.

 

[#Tee]

ya it is a huge spend for sure that plus all the bells and whistles you might want to add later + bits and dominoes + a pretty systainer to store it lol. most guys would spend this kind of money on a nice hdtv or fire arms. but i get so much more pleasure out of buying tools while being productive with it. it makes us money which pays for itself. ;D

 

[Gixxerjoe04]

That's what I tell my wife, gotta spend money to make money, and usually that's the truth even if she doesn't believe me haha.

 

[jacko9]

That's what I tell my wife, gotta spend money to make money, and usually that's the truth even if she doesn't believe me haha.

I have to tell you I convinced my wife to let me keep buying tools by making stuff she wanted.  I built her kitchen in quartered sawn white oak.  Milled and installed the hardwood flooring with straight grained oak.  Built all of the exterior doors out of Honduras Mahogany, the bathroom vanities out of Teak, Mahogany and Oak (different wood for each bathroom).  I built all of the tables, night stands, dressers, beds, desks and interior trim like the fireplace surrounds.  She doesn't ask what I want to buy a new tool for she just puts in her design ideas for the stuff I build her.

Get busy on her favorite project one step at a time and let her see progress and you'll make her happy!

Jack

 

[Holmz]

I don't know which domino to get, I want one too and will probably get the 500 but I enjoy the discussion.  My input is just on the vacuum.  I am very happy with my Rigid shop vacuum pulling through a dust deputy cyclone using a 5 meter Bosch hose.  The Rigid has an aftermarket HEPA filter.  The Bosch hose is relatively inexpensive if you need something to allow you to hook up the Domino.

great time to get the DE with the domino to get the 10% off

I am not sure 10% off is super good., but thye used ones are only ~20% off.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/classifieds/domino-df500-set-for-sale/?topicseen

One still needs to have Dominos and some vacuum. The DustDeputy and the Rigid should be fine.
That saves some $ for a few Dominos and a cutter.

There may be some used 700s if one is lucky. There are plenty available for more than RRP.

 

[Gixxerjoe04]

I contemplated buying that 500 from that guy, just afraid since you never know what you might get online, plus since I'm leaning towards the XL now.

 

[Coen]

I just wonder if it's a pain using the 700 with the after market adapters and all that stuff, looks like it would be difficult or cumbersome to use on real small stock.

No actually , the Df700 is better balanced and much easier to use than the DF500,  The extra capability of the 700  is well worth the difference.

Jack

Depends on what you do with it, if you are into small stuff, the 700 is a handicap. No 4mm tenons with the 700!

I still have a new 500 in a systainer. I bought it like 5 years ago.... and still have to use it.  :-[

 

[jacko9]

I just wonder if it's a pain using the 700 with the after market adapters and all that stuff, looks like it would be difficult or cumbersome to use on real small stock.

No actually , the Df700 is better balanced and much easier to use than the DF500,  The extra capability of the 700  is well worth the difference.

Jack

Depends on what you do with it, if you are into small stuff, the 700 is a handicap. No 4mm tenons with the 700!

I still have a new 500 in a systainer. I bought it like 5 years ago.... and still have to use it.  :-[

I don't build micro stuff where I would need the 4mm cutter.  I have used the 4mm doubled up to do inset drawer blades on nightstands and it is very nice for applications like that.

I have said that "If I could only have one Domino" it would be the XL700 but, I prefer to have both machines to handle the whole range of options.

Jack

 

[Gixxerjoe04]

Why can't the 4mm be used with the adapter with the XL?  Assume the lowest plunge for the xl is too long for the 4mm domino?

 

[bkharman]

Why can't the 4mm be used with the adapter with the XL?  Assume the lowest plunge for the xl is too long for the 4mm domino?

It will still work. Just need to do a little math before plunging. You can use the plastic ring that came with the 700 to be a depth stop.

Cheers. Bryan.

 

[Gwerner]

That's what I tell my wife, gotta spend money to make money, and usually that's the truth even if she doesn't believe me haha.

I have to tell you I convinced my wife to let me keep buying tools by making stuff she wanted.  I built her kitchen in quartered sawn white oak.  Milled and installed the hardwood flooring with straight grained oak.  Built all of the exterior doors out of Honduras Mahogany, the bathroom vanities out of Teak, Mahogany and Oak (different wood for each bathroom).  I built all of the tables, night stands, dressers, beds, desks and interior trim like the fireplace surrounds.  She doesn't ask what I want to buy a new tool for she just puts in her design ideas for the stuff I build her.

Get busy on her favorite project one step at a time and let her see progress and you'll make her happy!

Jack

Yep, this is exactly my method and it works like a charm  8)

 

[sancho57]

I have to keep my wife at home when I go to a wood show or my favorite supplier like Austins in SA Calif. I end up spending way to much money.

Oh honey you need one of those....

She has me way over buying . But If she's not with me then I have to wait til she's not around and sneak it in the shop.

 

[jacko9]

I have to keep my wife at home when I go to a wood show or my favorite supplier like Austins in SA Calif. I end up spending way to much money.

Oh honey you need one of those....

She has me way over buying . But If she's not with me then I have to wait til she's not around and sneak it in the shop.

My golf partner told me that his wife says "money is like manure - you have to spread it around to do any good"

Jack

 

[Gixxerjoe04]

Got another question, is there like any chart or guide out there to tell you which size domino should be used in a certain thickness, or which shouldn't be used in a certain thickness?

 

[jacko9]

Got another question, is there like any chart or guide out there to tell you which size domino should be used in a certain thickness, or which shouldn't be used in a certain thickness?

Joe,

Just use 1/3 of the stock thickness as a general guide, it will serve you well.

Jack