DF500 and DF700 bit wrench original storing place?

[smorgasbord]

I'm amazed that there are some many variants

What's crazy is that there are so many systainer variations for the Dominos, but the machines themselves haven't had any major changes since the 4mm size was introduced to the DF500 a couple years after the DF500 first shipped. You'd think at least the DF500 fence stops would change their calibration dimension to match the fence height ruler, not to mention the additional paddles.

I think there's some smart Festool marketing at work here, channeling engineering resources towards incremental sales. And, so far, there's really no competition for the Domino that might force Festool to incur the cost of making engineering/manufacturing changes. Once the Domino patent expires, I think there will be a rush of copycats and even improvements on the original not from Festool spurring them on.

Looking at the Mafell Duo-Doweller, there are cheap copies, but they fail, as Peter Millard says, in ways that indicate the companies don't have people that actually use the tools in positions that can influence design. Which is too bad, because a decent $200 Duo-Doweller would be really useful to a lot of home woodworkers.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Looking at the Mafell Duo-Doweller, there are cheap copies, but they fail, as Peter Millard says, in ways that indicate the companies don't have people that actually use the tools in positions that can influence design. Which is too bad, because a decent $200 Duo-Doweller would be really useful to a lot of home woodworkers.

I actually recently bought a Mafell DuoDoweller off a bloke who worked for Triton Tools back in the day. It was as new and pretty much unused as it was bought specifically to use as the model to base their design and measurements off for their own version, unfortunately despite the research time and money thrown at it the Triton version still sucked worse than a dead Hoover.

Although I'd say they're better, the Asian knock-offs of the Zeta are very similar in that they kind of work, with effort and far more manual control settings than should be needed, producing a more or less workable result. I don't see any economy style versions of the Domino anytime soon regardless of patent expiries.

I do see improved more expensive versions coming out with additional features, which is really the only way to go with a product in that class. Otherwise it's a race to the bottom with the knock-offs.

 

[Michael Kellough]

My first gen DF500.

Do other inserts have numbers? Might indicate something.

Also have prototype Domiplate.

And found an old Woodcraft sales flyer under the insert.

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[Frank-Jan]

I just went and checked the classic systainer of my domino with pins, I never noticed the recess for the wrench,  I keep the wrench in the spot in the corner, because that's were it was when I got it. The spot above the wrench-shaped recess is where the side extensions with the pins live (which I never use, so I didn't notice that storage possibility  [big grin])

 

[Michael Kellough]

Ah, it’s been so long I don’t remember where stuff was originally but I think my wrench was in this spot. I move stuff around when there’s something new to add. Like when the TSO Big Foot arrived.

 

[Andrius]

Thanks for the photos! i should have looked more carefully into the picture on the lid. In DF500 systainer T-loc wrench should be held on the left bottom corner! PS i'll check DF700 wrench position next week. 

Here is the DF500 on the TLoc  and in the newer Sys3.
As [member=75217]squall_line[/member] noted, it wedges into a series of bumps, in the front of the unit. (TLoc)

The Sys3 tray is completely different. I'm not exactly sure that I understand why though.
I don't even know where they store the wrench in the new one. It belongs to the company, I have never even opened it, until today.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Yup, that the spot. Mine came with the open end facing the other way, so that's how I store it. Can't see that it would matter though. It works.