different jigs for drilling 32mm pattern shelf pin holes?

[Tyler Ernsberger]

I made this jig last year and just did a video showing how it works and how to make it. It has really worked well for me and is quick, easy and accurate to use.  Hope you find it helpful.

Are you sponsored by Bosch? All your video's your using Bosch.  In all your posts you have never brought up Festool. 

 

[woodman_412]

I made this jig last year and just did a video showing how it works and how to make it. It has really worked well for me and is quick, easy and accurate to use.  Hope you find it helpful.

Are you sponsored by Bosch? All your video's your using Bosch.  In all your posts you have never brought up Festool.

Tyler, no I'm not sponsored by Bosch in any way.  I'm also a member of the BeThePro forum so I've gotten some Bosch tools from the rewards system on there and I've invested in a lot of Bosch gear over the years but I'm not affiliated with them. I'm hoping to get some Festool gear to review as well, but at this point I don't have any of my own.  I'm not trying to promote Bosch in any way in my videos, it just happens to be the tools that I have to use.  I just thought I would share the videos on here in the hope that members will find them helpful.

 

[Klemm]

a great all-around thread on shelf pin hole making including the very nicely done video on the shop made jig by Woodman_412, Considering the time required to design and build it it's by no means cheap (assuming your time has $$ value.
to contrast all these approaches it would be interesting to see a video showing the FESTOOL complete LR-32 system in use.

The advantage of WOODMAN's no-router-lifting-required feature is replicated by FESTOOL since the router stay on the workpiece and the locating features is performed by the easily reached and activated teeter-totter lever to  engage the jig pin the guide rail.

I'll use my phenolic WOODPECKERS jig for now and see what additional posts come up. - LR-32 demo anyone?

 

[Roseland]

I also have the Kreg jig.  It's pretty much the only one you can use after a cabinet is assembled.  And it's cheap as chips.
I like the idea of using a router for a cleaner cut, and might use the Kreg jig to make a router jig.
Andrew

 

[woodman_412]

a great all-around thread on shelf pin hole making including the very nicely done video on the shop made jig by Woodman_412, Considering the time required to design and build it it's by no means cheap (assuming your time has $$ value.
to contrast all these approaches it would be interesting to see a video showing the FESTOOL complete LR-32 system in use.

The advantage of WOODMAN's no-router-lifting-required feature is replicated by FESTOOL since the router stay on the workpiece and the locating features is performed by the easily reached and activated teeter-totter lever to  engage the jig pin the guide rail.

I'll use my phenolic WOODPECKERS jig for now and see what additional posts come up. - LR-32 demo anyone?

I think the Festool LR-32 system is pretty slick since like you said there is no lifting of the router.  I had actually thought of trying to make an index stop system similar to that when I was designing my jig but the thing I like about the system I went with is there are no extra actions required while using the jig, just slide and plunge. I can't remember how long exactly it took to make the jig but it wasn't very long. My time is worth money for sure but I usually try and make jigs like this when work is a little more slack so I save money in the end rather than buying a commercial jig or system. I also enjoy the design and build process of making my own jigs and tools so it's more than just a money saving thing. I had a lot of fun designing and making my Multi Purpose Table and there is a certain satisfaction that comes from using a tool you made yourself.

I was supposed to teach a seminar at Lee Valley this past fall on how to work with sheet goods with a track saw but the seminar ended up being cancelled since there weren't enough people around here interested in the topic.  I would have been using the Festool track saw along with the MFT/3 to teach the class so I was disappointed when the class didn't go ahead since I didn't get to try them out.  I'm hoping I might be able to work a deal with Lee Valley at some point to get some Festool gear to review on DP Shop Talk.

 

[Klemm]

Dan, your point on how you come to buid rather than buy certain fixtures is well taken. I looked at your MultiPurpose Table video as well and I must compliment you and a very well thought our, practical tables. Your website explaining it and the $ 25.00 set of plans are very professional - my hat's off to you!
Did you use SketchUp to design your MPT?
Hans

 

[woodman_412]

Dan, your point on how you come to buid rather than buy certain fixtures is well taken. I looked at your MultiPurpose Table video as well and I must compliment you and a very well thought our, practical tables. Your website explaining it and the $ 25.00 set of plans are very professional - my hat's off to you!
Did you use SketchUp to design your MPT?
Hans

Thanks very much Hans!  Yes I did use Sketchup to design the MPT.  I use Sketchup on pretty much all of my projects, a lot of which are custom kitchens and cabinet projects.  I also use AutoCad sometimes as well but mostly Sketchup now.  I spent 6 years working in the architectural field so I am well versed in both AutoCad and Sketchup as well as putting together a complete set of plans.  I find that Sketchup is an indispensable design tool.

 

[travisj]

As to the LR32 system.  A FOG member @erock did a series of YouTube videos on the LR32.  His channel is called the Poplar Shop.  He did a series of videos on cabinet construction and a Sysport video all using the LR32.  I got sucked into Festool from those videos.

 

[Klemm]

Dan, your point on how you come to buid rather than buy certain fixtures is well taken. I looked at your MultiPurpose Table video as well and I must compliment you and a very well thought our, practical tables. Your website explaining it and the $ 25.00 set of plans are very professional - my hat's off to you!
Did you use SketchUp to design your MPT?
Hans

Thanks very much Hans!  Yes I did use Sketchup to design the MPT.  I use Sketchup on pretty much all of my projects, a lot of which are custom kitchens and cabinet projects.  I also use AutoCad sometimes as well but mostly Sketchup now.  I spent 6 years working in the architectural field so I am well versed in both AutoCad and Sketchup as well as putting together a complete set of plans.  I find that Sketchup is an indispensable design tool.

Dan, no wonder your design works looks so professional - - you are a Professional Designer AND a very capable woodworker besides

 

[polarsea1]

I use a True Position TP-1935 for drilling shelf pin holes as well as hardware holes. It be used to drill holes before or after cabinet assembly. Nice piece of gear but not inexpensive. 

 

[Klemm]

I use a True Position TP-1935 for drilling shelf pin holes as well as hardware holes. It be used to drill holes before or after cabinet assembly. Nice piece of gear but not inexpensive.

I had never heard of TP Tools until I saw your post. Looks like precision similar to Woodpeckers. Does not look readily usable with a router. thanks for sharing - always something new to learn on the FOG forum