Domino XL 700 On Hard Woods

[Ari]

Dears.

I intent to have some use of my Domino XL on hard woods like ipê etc. Is there any problem or any recommendations?

Best

Ari

 

[greg mann]

Just make sure you have a firm grip to avoid unwanted movement. I have used the original Domino on Ipe with great results. No problem.

 

[Stone Message]

Dear ari

I have used the DF700 on oak, walnut and soft wood. There is no real difference except remember to make the plunge slowly as the cutter (and the gearbox) has a lot of work to do. If you are doing deeper cuts you will find that you will have to do a bit of manual vacuuming in order to get the last of the dust out of the holes.

It is a brilliant machine - have fun.

Peter

 

[Ari]

Dear Greg and Peter.

Thank you very much. I was a little concerned about it. Now it's very clear.

Best from

Ari

 

[peter halle]

Hey Ari!

Ipe is notorious for being tough on blades and bits due to its hardness.  Many (tropical to us but native to you) woods have a habit of ingesting silica that also causes longevity issues with cutting edges.  I anticipate that you will have great results using the tool but your bits will not last nearly as long as others who use different wood.

Please let us know how it goes! 

Peter

 

[peter halle]

Ron,

You are absolutely correct!  If I had one of these I would sit corrected.  [big grin]

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Peter

 

[Stokely]

Is painting Ipe ridiculous? Looking to make an outdoor hanging bed and absolutely dread using treated wood.

 

[Ari]

Very interesting Peter, I did not know about the silica thing. My mother-in-law must eat it to... [wink] (Just kidding, she is so nice)

I have very few projects using ipê on mind but I will report how it is going ok? Many thanks Peter!!

Ron, thanks for the correction.... [big grin]

Stokely, in Brasil we have a special mafia that kills people that paint ipê.... [wink]
Tung oil gives a very good look and a strong protection to ipê.

Thanks a lot guys!!

Ari

 

[builderbob]

Very interesting Peter, I did not know about the silica thing. My mother-in-law must eat it to... [wink] (Just kidding, she is so nice)

I have very few projects using ipê on mind but I will report how it is going ok? Many thanks Peter!!

Ron, thanks for the correction.... [big grin]

Stokely, in Brasil we have a special mafia that kills people that paint ipê.... [wink]
Tung oil gives a very good look and a strong protection to ipê.

Thanks a lot guys!!

Ari

I have oiled ipe as well...it's way too nice to paint!

Bob

 

[nickao]

Why anyone would paint any hardwood is beyond me. Whether it's inexpensive locally or not isn't the point for me, its the beauty of the wood. Why cover it up. Usually a nice wood like Ipe can match a painted surface. I like the painted next to natural wood look.

Ipe will not hold paint very well at all. The characteristics which make it great for outdoor projects make it unsuitable for painting.  I am sure it can be painted and I am also sure the paint will chip off within a year, maybe less.  Use a clear finish, Tung oil or whatever, but don't paint it!

 

[Ari]

Hey All!

This afternoon I will apply some tung oil on a ipê table. Gonna take some pics and show you latter.

Best from

Ari

 

[RONWEN]

I also am in the "never paint hardwood" group however it's surprising how many people care less about the wood grain beauty and more about the color coordinated decor of a room.  The wood only provides a place for accent color(s).  [crying]

 

[nickao]

I once made a gorgeous built in for a client. It cost them about 20,000.00. Raised panel doors crown the whole shot. The material was Super White, Super Curly Tiger Maple all hand picked. I took such care making the panels so the best of the wood showed up, my glue ups were impeccable.  I used all the top of the line hardware and slides, I fretted over the smallest detail, stuff only guys here would even care about. I was so proud of myself, it was one of my first paying jobs making Cabinets.

After I was done and it was installed in the home the wife insist I paint it! I couldn't do it. I hired a guy to paint it and never even went back to look at it, I was sick to my stomach. I heard the color was horrible as well. The General called me and was as sick about it as I was.

I asked the husband why he insisted and paid for such good wood if they were going  to paint it. Why not use another wood that would take the paint better and not waste all that difficult to get wood. Poplar probably would have been my choice. Plus, it could have been sprayed in shop and been a heck of a lot nicer. The guy that painted it just used a brush.

His reply, his wife was nuts. Yeah, I got that.

 

[Stokely]

I'm not sure how it was inferred I don't appreciate wood grain. I have project that will be painted and reside outside. I'd like hardwood, but maybe it isn't necessary. I asked a question about Ipe as I have access to some on the cheap.

 

[mouppe]

At least post a note somewhere on the cabinet saying "underneath this paint is curly maple" or something like that. Then perhaps it won't end up on the bonfire when the next homeowner comes in and redesigns the room.

 

[nickao]

I'm not sure how it was inferred I don't appreciate wood grain. I have project that will be painted and reside outside. I'd like hardwood, but maybe it isn't necessary. I asked a question about Ipe as I have access to some on the cheap.

No I did not mean to infer you personally did not appreciate wood grain at all. I am so sorry if it came across that way. I was just playing around saying no one should ever paint a wood like that in general and maybe save that wood and use something else for the project. I am sure most anyone that frequents this forum is a wood lover. I apologize for not being clear in my post and I am so sorry if I aggravated or hurt you in any way.

The important thing is that Ipe is very difficult to paint because of the inherent oils in it. I am sure you can find a way, possibly an experienced painter could help and comment. I would imagine an oil base paint if you could get a hold of it would be your best bet. For outside it is a very good wood choice that's for sure. Could  a solid stain work, possibly that could be better. I just have no experience painting that type of wood.

I would love to get some on the cheap myself!

 

[Brice Burrell]

I'm not sure how it was inferred I don't appreciate wood grain. I have project that will be painted and reside outside. I'd like hardwood, but maybe it isn't necessary. I asked a question about Ipe as I have access to some on the cheap.

........I would love to get some on the cheap myself!

Ha, add me to the list of wanting to get Ipe on the cheap.  Right now I'm rebuilding a greenhouse with Ipe and I can tell you it ain't cheap.

As for painting, I feel awful every time I paint spanish cedar. [crying]  

 

[nickao]

Every once in awhile I hit a gold mine pricing for ipe on eBay, but its been a long while.

 

[ginocon]

I agree with all you guys, it's a crime to paint those exotic woods types. However I think there is a way in between to keep both world happy: Valspar has some semi transparent paint types for wood that gives the wood some tint but shows you the grain pattern and everything of the original wood.

but IMHO DON'T PAINT IT

I saw in a DIY show a kitchen renovation where they have cut a 70year old table top made of dark hardwood to make two wndow benches  [mad] [mad] and used the leg to put a glass top instead.  They did it because the tabel was to big for the space. Their only part forgiveness was that they used a TS55 with guiderail to cut it but with no vacuum attached. [sad]

Anyway Have fun with the Domino700XL mine is still in the wishlist. but coming soon.

 

[Stokely]

I'm not sure how it was inferred I don't appreciate wood grain. I have project that will be painted and reside outside. I'd like hardwood, but maybe it isn't necessary. I asked a question about Ipe as I have access to some on the cheap.

No I did not mean to infer you personally did not appreciate wood grain at all. I am so sorry if it came across that way. I was just playing around saying no one should ever paint a wood like that in general and maybe save that wood and use something else for the project. I am sure most anyone that frequents this forum is a wood lover. I apologize for not being clear in my post and I am so sorry if I aggravated or hurt you in any way.

The important thing is that Ipe is very difficult to paint because of the inherent oils in it. I am sure you can find a way, possibly an experienced painter could help and comment. I would imagine an oil base paint if you could get a hold of it would be your best bet. For outside it is a very good wood choice that's for sure. Could a solid stain work, possibly that could be better. I just have no experience painting that type of wood.

I would love to get some on the cheap myself!

I'm not offended. Thanks for clarifying though. I as well don't really want to paint hardwood, but it may provide a better piece than regular lumber from the Borg. suggestions?