Domino XL

[fritter63]

Well i used mine in anger for the first time 2 nights ago to make 3 oak internal doors. 

Don't plunge angry!  [wink]

 

[Brice Burrell]

yeah if i get 1 it will be 110v. So looks like i will be waiting. I spoke to festool the other day and mentionion protool and thier answer was that the 1st fix market isnt very big in the uk(due to mainly brick built stuff) so they are not willing to spend the money on getting 110v tools to the market so the same may apply to the dom xl.

I'd be surprised if you didn't get the 110v version at about the same time we get ours or probably before.

 

[Deansocial]

funny that brice, because he said same about the protools. he said there was little chance that they would pass UL? said heath and safety law is stupid over in the us yet looking at some of the stuff you can buy you wouldnt think it

 

[Tezzer]

XL700 What a tool. I have been giving it the full-on run-down in the last six weeks and i reckon its one of the finest power tools i have ever used. At the moment sorting heaps of pics and info and will post a review in a week or two.

 

[Brice Burrell]

XL700 What a tool. I have been giving it the full-on run-down in the last six weeks and i reckon its one of the finest power tools i have ever used. At the moment sorting heaps of pics and info and will post a review in a week or two.

Very cool, I'm looking forward to your insight on this tool!

 

[Tezzer]

Very cool, I'm looking forward to your insight on this tool!

Its a stunner. Totally reworked from the bottom up. One thing i will say, if you already own a 500 and purchase the new 700 then the usage split will be around 70/30 in favour of the 500. Its a beast, can be fatiguing with extended use, but will full mortise the toughest of tough timber like a hot knife through butter. An absolute pleasure to own and use.

And the best thing  [big grin] not a stupid paddle to be seen  [big grin] back to 5mm (revamped) pins  [big grin] So im assuming this once and for all settles the pins/paddles debate for good  [big grin]

 

[ajones]

Very cool, I'm looking forward to your insight on this tool!

Its a stunner. Totally reworked from the bottom up. One thing i will say, if you already own a 500 and purchase the new 700 then the usage split will be around 70/30 in favour of the 500. Its a beast, can be fatiguing with extended use, but will full mortise the toughest of tough timber like a hot knife through butter. An absolute pleasure to own and use.

And the best thing  [big grin] not a stupid paddle to be seen  [big grin] back to 5mm (revamped) pins  [big grin] So im assuming this once and for all settles the pins/paddles debate for good  [big grin]

So lets see if i've got this right.........if you've got paddles you're up the creek [embarassed] [big grin]

 

[Jesse Cloud]

funny that brice, because he said same about the protools. he said there was little chance that they would pass UL? said heath and safety law is stupid over in the us yet looking at some of the stuff you can buy you wouldnt think it

That's part of the problem.  The UL is not a law and has nothing to do with the government.  It is funded and run by a group of insurance companies.  They will probably not pay a claim if a non-UL-certified tool is involved.  The public can't vote on it and is totally at the mercy of the companies.

Its hard to believe that they could arrive at their decisions rationally.  One has to suspect that they are thoroughly corrupt.

 

[fritter63]

I was told recently by someone that worked for a factory & had to get itemes they made through UL. He said they had all kinds of problems getting things approved until they found the right kind of grease to use on the products.

After that it did not matter what the product was, as long as they used the same kind of grease, the products were always approved.   

I heard it was "Ben Franklin" grease...

 

[andvari]

Not sure why the focus on UL? In the US OSHA sets the regulations, and they have a list of what they call Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratories, of which UL is one choice. The German Technischer Überwachungsverein is on that list.

 

[Kevin D.]

I really wat my XL.  Got a whole bunch of outdoor projects I want to use it on.  [crying]

 

[Rembo]

ohh, yeah! is an exceptional machine!

 

[Guy Ashley]

Had mine a couple of months now and it is a real game changer, up there with the OF2200 for build quality, precision and speed of operation.

You chaps over the pond start saving your pennies, cents?? [big grin]

 

[Tim Sproul]

Not sure why the focus on UL? In the US OSHA sets the regulations, and they have a list of what they call Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratories, of which UL is one choice. The German Technischer Überwachungsverein is on that list.

It wouldn't surprise me if the underwriter for product liability insurance that Festool USA uses requires UL approval.  Specifically UL approval and not some other testing lab.

 

[Brice Burrell]

Not sure why the focus on UL? In the US OSHA sets the regulations, and they have a list of what they call Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratories, of which UL is one choice. The German Technischer Überwachungsverein is on that list.

It wouldn't surprise me if the underwriter for product liability insurance that Festool USA uses requires UL approval.  Specifically UL approval and not some other testing lab.

It seems Festool USA goes for the CSA most often, not UL.  Maybe they require less of that grease Chris was talking about. [tongue] 

 

[jacko9]

Can someone tell me what the weight difference is between the Domino 500 and the new 700?  I've been using my 500 for almost 4 years now but, as I approach 70 years old I want to make sure that I can heft the new machine for a few more years.  I have no problem with the Domino 500 now and in the foreseeable future.

 

[peter halle]

Jack, 

According to the Festool UK site and converting kg, the Xl weighs 11.46 lbs and the 500 weighs just over 7 lbs.

Peter

 

[jacko9]

Jack, 

According to the Festool UK site and converting kg, the Xl weighs 11.46 lbs and the 500 weighs just over 7 lbs.

Peter

Thanks Peter, I guess I have to take my weight lifting more serious!

 

[Timtool]

The XL does take a certain strength and endurance to operate, the 500 is piece of cake next to it. I'm a 27 year old farm boy and i am happy to have the muscle mass i have, the first couple mortises are easy but when your making like 40 mortises on a door, which isn't unusual then you feel the last ones. Though i wouldn't call it truly exhausting or painful.
just try lifting one a couple of times at the store using one hand only on the rear handle, the 500 is held at the center so it's balanced, the 700 is held at the rear like a watering can, it multiplies the weight considerably.

 

[Kev]

The XL does take a certain strength and endurance to operate, the 500 is piece of cake next to it. I'm a 27 year old farm boy and i am happy to have the muscle mass i have, the first couple mortises are easy but when your making like 40 mortises on a door, which isn't unusual then you feel the last ones. Though i wouldn't call it truly exhausting or painful.
just try lifting one a couple of times at the store using one hand only on the rear handle, the 500 is held at the center so it's balanced, the 700 is held at the rear like a watering can, it multiplies the weight considerably.

I was looking forward to picking up my 700 XL tomorrow ... now I'm starting to think I should get 2 ... I don't want my left and right arms to be as different as Roger Federer's  [eek]