Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet

[JLMS2010]

Hello everybody.  I was hoping to get some opinions on 2 dust collectors I'm looking at purchase for my garage.  I'm looking at the Laguna 1.5HP & Jet 1.5HP.  It will be in my garage.  I'm going to get getting a table saw around the same time.  The dust collector will be used for the table saw, router and my kapex.  All my other festool tools I'll have hooked up to the CT26e.  I don't have a jointer or planer yet.  I would say eventually I'll add those.  I'm the only one who uses this, so it would most likely be just 1 tool at a time being used.  I have a Jet AFS 1000B mounted in the ceiling.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.  The garage is wired for 110, but I'll probably have to add another circuit.  Thanks everybody! 
https://lagunatools.com/classic-machinery/dust-collectors/cflux-1-5-hp-cyclone/http://www.jettools.com/us/en/p/jcdc-1-5-cyclone-dust-collector-1-5hp-115v/717515

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Another contender to consider is the Oneida Air Systems 1.5hp Mini Gorilla. I just bought one a few weeks ago and have been very happy with it. Relatively quiet, good build quality, good performance, sturdy, and great support from Oneida.
https://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=XXPM010100H&CatId={B75F8739-54DE-47CA-A8FE-4FE9AEFDCC1C}

 

[JLMS2010]

Thanks.  I'll check that one out as well.  I was looking at Jet & Laguna because I heard they would be on sale for Black Friday. 

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Something to consider when comparing dust collectors is how much you anticipate moving it around your garage. I see  a lot of guys using portable units as de facto stationary units, which is fine if that was your original intention.

What I like about the Mini Gorilla is, due to its tripod design, it is very stable, has a small footprint, and is very easy for me to wheel around my shop. I had originally looked at machines like the Laguna and Jet, but they looked awkward and unwieldy to quickly move around.

Oneida regularly has sales on various classes of dust extractors, it wouldn't hurt to call them and inquire if they have any sales coming up.

 

[rljatl]

I have been very happy with my Laguna Pflux Hepa 3hp.  Some people claim that the shorter cyclone design used by Laguna and other manufacturers can reduce effective separation of fines from larger dust particles and cause the filter to clog faster.  This seems to only apply to the 3hp models and up.  One test I saw mentioned how good the dust separation was on the 1.5hp model you are looking at.

The separation on mine works great.  Some written articles on dust collection even claim that a clean filter reduces the effectiveness of the filter to capture the finest dust particles.  In other words, the filter needs to be somewhat dirty so that the smallest dust particles do not slip through the filter.  For the larger hp collectors, Laguna offers an additional part that simply bolts under the lid of the dust barrel making proper separation a non-issue.  (I think this may act as a sort of Thien baffle.) 

In any case, always use a dust collector, air filter, and dust mask.

 

[butzla]

If you're looking to keep the cost down, do consider Grizzly.  I have a G1029 that I bought in 1991, I've gone through multiple table saws and jointers but this is the one constant in my shop.  It's proven to be a workhorse.  There is literally thousands of hours on it and the only thing I've had to do was tighten the impeller bolts twice.  It's on sale now for $325 and interestingly, I paid the same price 26 years ago.  It is 240V so you'll need to wire for it.  There are other smaller units available but I wouldn't go any smaller than this, for future expansion.
For some time, I've been thinking about upgrading to a stationary 2 stage cyclone.  Like you, I've been researching other brands.  But I think I'd be crazy to consider any other brand, given the service mine's given me.

Grizzly G1029Z on sale

 

[jyarbrou]

That Mini Gorilla has low CFM at 583. A Jet 1100 series model is twice that CFM at less than half the cost.

Not really an apples to apples comparison based off theoretical CFM. You'd need to compare the curve diagrams for each. The Mini Gorilla is 583 CFM at 2" static pressure. The fan curve for the Jet shows at the same static pressure it's only ~350CFM. Oneida does a really good job of defining real world numbers in their marketing where a lot of the others market free fan CFM.

 

[live4ever]

Personally I’m trying to decide between the Pflux 1.5 and the Mini Gorilla.  I want the winner to be the quieter unit but I don’t really have a way to determine that lol.

 

[jacko9]

I have the Oneida Air Systems V-3000 in my garage shop and it is very very effective and quiet.

 

[JLMS2010]

Thank you all for the opinions. 

I would imagine it would be stationary most of the time.  Occasionally moving it around the garage.  The one thing I was looking for was at least a 1 micron filter or better HEPA.  I realize this comes with a cost though. 

It did seem like it was easy to get HEPA Oneida filters.  It seems like HEPA filters are hard to find for the Jet and Laguna.  Unless I overlooked something. lol

 

[jacko9]

Thank you all for the opinions. 

I would imagine it would be stationary most of the time.  Occasionally moving it around the garage.  The one thing I was looking for was at least a 1 micron filter or better HEPA.  I realize this comes with a cost though. 

It did seem like it was easy to get HEPA Oneida filters.  It seems like HEPA filters are hard to find for the Jet and Laguna.  Unless I overlooked something. lol

I operated my shop for 30 years without a main dust system but when I finally installed my Oneida V-3000 HEPA system I can't believe how clean my shop is (and I'm sure my lungs as well).  I have it mounted on one wall with a 35 gallon bucket under it (which is mounted on wheels).  I also bought the sensor that alarms with a strobe light you when you get to the fill level you set.  I hardly ever find much very fine dust in the HEPA section.  The separation is very effective and a white glove swipe on surfaces show just how good their system really is.

Jack

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Thank you all for the opinions. 

I would imagine it would be stationary most of the time.  Occasionally moving it around the garage.  The one thing I was looking for was at least a 1 micron filter or better HEPA.  I realize this comes with a cost though. 

It did seem like it was easy to get HEPA Oneida filters.  It seems like HEPA filters are hard to find for the Jet and Laguna.  Unless I overlooked something. lol

Keep in mind too that the published performance curves for the Jet and Laguna are figured using their stock filters. I'd expect to see a drop in performance if you fit them with a HEPA filter, particularly the Jet since it ships with a 1 micron filter.

 

[JLMS2010]

Thanks.  Yes, I'll keep that in mind.  I'm not too concerned with the CFM.  All of these machines will be plenty for only using 1 tool at a time.  Lol

 

[JSlovic]

I've got the 110V predecessor of the Laguna cflux-
Very happy with it. I only use it on one machine at a time, and find it easy to reposition in my shop.
The only complaint is there's a frame in dust bin to keep the bag from collapsing that assembled with a bunch of M3 (?) screws they didn't use lockwashers on and they vibrated loose during shipment. I gave them a healthy dose of Locktite and they haven't budged since.

 

[mark60]

I bought the 1.5 P Flux last year during the black Friday sale and have been very happy with it. I only use it for one tool at a time and it's plenty for my Sawstop, bandsaw, and router table.

 

[JLMS2010]

I bought the 1.5 P Flux last year during the black Friday sale and have been very happy with it. I only use it for one tool at a time and it's plenty for my Sawstop, bandsaw, and router table.

I've got the 110V predecessor of the Laguna cflux-
Very happy with it. I only use it on one machine at a time, and find it easy to reposition in my shop.
The only complaint is there's a frame in dust bin to keep the bag from collapsing that assembled with a bunch of M3 (?) screws they didn't use lockwashers on and they vibrated loose during shipment. I gave them a healthy dose of Locktite and they haven't budged since.

Thank you for your input!

 

[JBag09]

Have any of you guys checked out JDS dust collectors. I recently ordered one after doing a lot of research, waiting on it due to backorder. Some of the things it comes standard with, seem to be options on the Laguna.http://jdstools.com/product/2hp-cyclone-2100-ckv/
Have never really looked at Jet DCs Maybe worth a look.

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[rljatl]

Have any of you guys checked out JDS dust collectors. I recently ordered one after doing a lot of research, waiting on it due to backorder. Some of the things it comes standard with, seem to be options on the Laguna.http://jdstools.com/product/2hp-cyclone-2100-ckv/
Have never really looked at Jet DCs Maybe worth a look.

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[member=39086]JBag09[/member]  What comes standard on the JDS and is an option on the Laguna?

The only option I am aware of for the Laguna is an automatic filter cleaner and those are not recommended for HEPA filters.

 

[JBag09]

@RobBob

Ya that was the option I was referring to. And I’ll admit I was not aware about the paddles not being recommended for a HEPA filter. 
I guess I can give my honest opinion in a few months on how the JDS works.

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[TracksawTravis]

I would second this, I just bought one myself and love it.

Another contender to consider is the Oneida Air Systems 1.5hp Mini Gorilla. I just bought one a few weeks ago and have been very happy with it. Relatively quiet, good build quality, good performance, sturdy, and great support from Oneida.
https://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=XXPM010100H&CatId={B75F8739-54DE-47CA-A8FE-4FE9AEFDCC1C}