Ebay seller? beware! -update-

Peter Halle said:
This has nothing to do with ebay, but rather about shipping USPS or otherwise.

Although Ebay didn't cause the problem they are a party to it.  I had no idea the tracking stopped at the border.  Ebay did.  They told me they knew.  Yet they do nothing to inform their legions of users to beware of shipping overseas with USPS.  They could have indemnified me but they won't.  Their skirts are not clean.  Unfortunately, there is nothing else out there than does what they do.  They have no real competition.
 
HowardH said:
Peter Halle said:
This has nothing to do with ebay, but rather about shipping USPS or otherwise.

Although Ebay didn't cause the problem they are a party to it.  I had no idea the tracking stopped at the border.  Ebay did.  They told me they knew.  Yet they do nothing to inform their legions of users to beware of shipping overseas with USPS.  They could have indemnified me but they won't.  Their skirts are not clean.  Unfortunately, there is nothing else out there than does what they do.  They have no real competition.

Howard, sorry for any confusion.  I was talking about info my post - not yours.  I wasn't trying to say that I thought your situation was ok.

Peter
 
I'm not a professional ebayer, but I've used them on and off for 15 years and a few hundred transactions.  Right or wrong, these are some of the guidelines I follow to minimize headaches to me.
1. No shipments outside the US.  I don't want to fill out the customs form, I don't want to deal with the problems arising from customs delays, I don't want to deal with buyers that "didn't know" they would get hit with hefty import duties/taxes.  Now I'll add tracking problems to my list, although this underscores a bigger problem with USPS.
2.  If the item has enough value that I don't want to be on the hook for a lost shipment, insure it.  If the buyer never receives it, I lose.
3.  USPS is quick and integrates well with ebay, so I can ship things out quick with a minimum of fuss.  Their package tracking is better than it used to be, but nowhere near acceptable in my view (even for domestic shipments).  Small packages are cheap to ship.  But good luck if you have an issue that needs to be resolved, including filing a claim for a lost (insured) package.  Choose your carrier wisely.  I basically self insure with USPS.  If I'm not willing to eat a loss, they are not an option.
4.  I've received more than a few priority mail boxes and envelopes over the years with the corner ripped clean off.  It seemed evident to me someone tried to quickly empty some or all of the contents without getting caught.  I now zip tie the item to a large piece of cardboard to prevent anyone from fishing the contents out of a small hole.  I've never had this issue with Fed Ex, and only a few times with UPS, but it was related to the shipper using weak cardboard, poor taping job and a dropped package causing the damage, not necessarily an obvious theft attempt.  
5.  Larger or more valuable items can be restricted to local pick up only.  I've been surprised at how effective this is, and ebay is much more convenient than dealing the craigslist people.  Of course I live in a metro area and an overpopulated one at that, so YMMV.  I've also bid on local pick up items thinking I would get it for a steal since I'm not competing with as many buyers.  Not really!  The items still got bid up to "fair ebay market value"!

Ebay isn't exactly perfect, but for me there is no substitute when it comes to clearing stuff out of my house and getting money back in my pocket.  USPS is cheap, but there are better options.  In my view they never really had a customer first company culture.
 
duburban said:
i wouldn't sell to anyone outside the USA. seems like that adds another risk factor.

That's a bit extreme [eek]

Plus I'm certain there's plenty of crooks in the US.

 
Bob Wolfe said:
why not report the phone stolen to Apple, does that not stop the unit ever being operational again? Just guessing...
If the buyer had the phone and could not initialize, he would have to get back to you???

This actually seems like a very appropriate suggestion.
 
Peter, no offense taken whatsoever.  Hindsight is always 20-20.  cavete vendit! (seller beware!)
 
I forgot to ask - did you insure it? I once shipped a Nikon lens to Italy, which never arrived at the buyer's location. I had to pester the USPS a little, but when they couldn't prove delivery I ultimately received a full refund - almost $800 if I recall correctly.

 
Kev said:
duburban said:
i wouldn't sell to anyone outside the USA. seems like that adds another risk factor.

That's a bit extreme [eek]

Plus I'm certain there's plenty of crooks in the US.

there are one or two on the fog
 
I think once parcels from USPS get to the uk they get swapped to parcelforce uk. You can then track them through parcel force by changing the last 2 letters of the tracking number to GB.

John..
 
A good news story about USPS.  I was told at the local PO that England and Scotland are two of ~28 countries that participate in the USPS tracking program.  I mentioned earlier that a package of Lie Nielsen calenders I had sent to a FoG friend in England got lost.  USPS tracking followed it through UK Customs and to a UK post office whereupon they disappeared.  I called LN and asked to order another set of calendars, and was willing to pay for them (it's not LN's fault).  Lie Nielsen wouldn't accept payment and sent out another set at no charge and they just arrived in England.  USPS tracking worked on this shipment, as well.

And I just sent a package to a FoG friend in Scotland, and USPS tracking followed it all the way through to the end.

So, at least in my case, the USPS worked well.  For anyone who wants to send a package internationally, it might be a good idea to confirm that the country of the recipient is  on the list of the countries that  track with USPS.
 
Well, the buyer got refunded his money and I got the shaft.  No money, no phone, no nothing.  Ebay said they would refund the sellers fee but I haven't seen it yet.  If I had done something out of the box, I would have no one to blame but myself but in this case the system failed me.  The post office should simply go out of business and let private UPS or Fedex do the mail.  At least they appear to care.
 
Don't you guys insure the packages? If you do, they have to provide proof of delivery or pay up.
 
wow said:
Don't you guys insure the packages? If you do, they have to provide proof of delivery or pay up.

"proof of delivery" is not really proof at all! Most packages are dropped without signature these days, by all carriers. Even if the tracking shows "delivered", the driver may still have dropped at the wrong address or in the wrong  cluster box, or the package may be stolen off of a doorstep. Even arming yourself with signature confirmation is not always a guarantee, as anyone at a specific address can sign for a package, it is not a requirement that 'Joe Smith' sign for a package addressed to "Joe Smith'.

 
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