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Kieran

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I have a Festool  583493 CT 35 E Hepa Dust Extractor with a power supply of 120 Volts 60 Hz (for the  America market).
Will the Dust Extractor work OK in Australia since we have a power supply of 240 Volts 50 Hz.  I understand I will need to change the power plug or use an adaptor, but would like to know if the voltage difference will damage or reduce the effectiveness of the extractor.
 
Whatever you do DO NOT plug it into a 240 volt outlet

GET SOME ADVICE FROM A LOCAL EXPERT


Peter
 
Peter is right do not plug into a 240 volt supply you will destroy the vacuum,You need a suitable transformer to be able to use the vacuum.

Welcome to the fog ...
 
The motor and other electrical guts are different for a AU version and a US version.  As the others have said - don't do it.

Peter
 
You can not plug the 120 volt vacuum in a 240 volt outlet. You can't change the plug nor use an adaptor. The ONLY thing that will make it work is the use of a step down transformer like this.

The step down transformer will transform the 240 volts to 120 volts. However, the vacuum uses 1200 watt itself, so for this you will need a bulky and fairly expensive transformer. If you want to plug any tools in the vacuum, you will need an even bigger transformer to account for the extra watts needed. The one I linked to above is for 2400 watts, so it should suffice for most tool + vac combinations. But since the vac is American, you can only use it with American 120 volt tools, not with Australian 240 volt tools. If you want to use the vac all by itself without plugged in tools, a smaller transformer will do.

But all in all, I don't think it is a wise decision to use an American 120 volt vac in Australia.
 
Peter Parfitt said:
Whatever you do DO NOT plug it into a 240 volt outlet

GET SOME ADVICE FROM A LOCAL EXPERT


Peter

If, by some chance, you decide to plug it into 240 volts anyway, you'll let out all the magic smoke, and Festool Tech Support won't be able to put it back in, not even with all the kings horses and all the king's men... 

[scared]
 
You could get a dedicated 240 to 120 volt transformer for it but It would probably be better to sell it & upgrade ;D Maybe a package deal with a new sander ::)

Gerry
 
Hey Guys - I think by now he has the message but if not....

Please make sure that you video the switch on of your CT!

Peter

PS Seriously DO NOT DO IT
 
Even in the USA it is common for manufacturing buildings to have their electricity delivered and metered by the utility at voltages far higher than 110/220v.

To provide my 2010 shop with the amount of power I needed, The City of Burbank Department of Water and Power required that the buildings existing and obsolete single phase 110/220v service be disconnected. I paid for them to install a new power pole and provide a large (3,000 KVA) transformer on top of a concrete vault my contractor installed. The output of their transformer is 480v 3 ph. My building is nearly 300 feet long and 70 feet wide, with the electrical service at the south end.

As an electrical engineer myself, I do not like running 110v lines more than 100' from a transformer. Therefore High of the East and West walls are mounted 6 transformers to step down the 480v to 110/220v single phase and 208v 3 ph. The transformer powering an existing A/C system only provides 220v 1 ph. The others power separate breaker panels. All of my fixed machines which can be wired directly for 480v 3ph are. The longest 480v run to a machine is 265 feet, so all we did was increase the size of the cable slightly.

In the 2.5 years since I opened this shop, we have had no problems with voltage drop. Currently my 'connected load' is 1,100 KVA, so there is a lot of reserve for future growth without redesigning my electrical distribution system.

As my workers comp insurance people and I interpret California labor electrical safety regulations, I may not allow an employee to use any hand-held electrical tool using voltage higher than 125v. Legally I believe it would be legal to use 240v Kapex, so long as they were hard wired to a disconnecting means, except that Festool does not import 220v Kapex and they are not 'listed' by UL or any such service for use in the USA. California and Burbank regulations require all electrical devices used in a business to be listed by UL or an acceptable service.

The experience of many FOG members is that Festools are designed to run on 50 to 60 cycles. So in Australia, for example, a step-down transformer to 110-125v 1 ph 50hz would work. Chances are a USA-style 125v 1ph 15 or 20a receptacle would not pass inspection. So the CT power cord would need to use an Australian approved connector. Probably changing that connector would void the Festool warranty.
 
ccarrolladams said:
So in Australia, for example, a step-down transformer to 110-125v 1 ph 50hz would work. Chances are a USA-style 125v 1ph 15 or 20a receptacle would not pass inspection. So the CT power cord would need to use an Australian approved connector.

You simply plug the American plug into the step down transformer. The transformer makes sure the vac gets the juice it needs at the correct specs. No plug change needed.

 
Alex said:
ccarrolladams said:
So in Australia, for example, a step-down transformer to 110-125v 1 ph 50hz would work. Chances are a USA-style 125v 1ph 15 or 20a receptacle would not pass inspection. So the CT power cord would need to use an Australian approved connector.

You simply plug the American plug into the step down transformer. The transformer makes sure the vac gets the juice it needs at the correct specs. No plug change needed.

Alex, do you have personal knowledge that a step-down transformer with a USA standard 110-125 v receptacle is permitted under Australian electrical safety rules?
 
Whereabouts in Australia will you be working? I have a 240-110 volt transformer with appropriate American style power sockets to suit the US style Festool plugs. It will have more than  enough to power a dust extractor.
 
ccarrolladams said:
Alex said:
ccarrolladams said:
So in Australia, for example, a step-down transformer to 110-125v 1 ph 50hz would work. Chances are a USA-style 125v 1ph 15 or 20a receptacle would not pass inspection. So the CT power cord would need to use an Australian approved connector.

You simply plug the American plug into the step down transformer. The transformer makes sure the vac gets the juice it needs at the correct specs. No plug change needed.

Alex, do you have personal knowledge that a step-down transformer with a USA standard 110-125 v receptacle is permitted under Australian electrical safety rules?

A quick google search shows that step down transformers with American receptacles are readily sold in Australia. That wouldn't happen if they weren't approved.
 
While staying in an extremely nice (expensive) hotel in Cairo, Egypt; my wonderful wife plugged her US (120volt) hair curler into a converter plug and then into the 240 volt wall socket.

After putting out the fire, the hotel staff helped locate another hair curler for a mere $200 US dollars.

Fortunately, we were not charged for the fire damage to the bathroom.

 
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