Entry Doors with side lites

[Warrior]

You do not have to share so much and I personally appreciate it.

Nickao

this is what it is all about. I dont have time but I have more thoughts on this.

Eiji

 

[Michael Kellough]

I agree and when you have time start a new thread on sharing info if you can. When I came up the rule was no one was going to share and you had to pay your dues to get the info. I never liked that, but its the way it was back in the day. It is still like that to a certain extent today depending on where you work.

I was once sharing a simple layout trick I used to layout for the plates on a foundation and the boss came down on me yelling saying I was not paid to teach. How short sighted of him.

Now with the net it is so simple to share.

Nickao

I've found that creative people are happy to share their ideas and techniques.
It's only those that have to steal techniques that try to hoard them.

 

[Warrior]

It helps even me when I share new techniques because someone else can then find an even better way and share it with me. It is a win/win for the woodworker and the clients aswell because they end up with a superior product.

This pretty much sums up the shop work on the doors/jambs. The Festool tools and rail system are fantastic and were instrumental in the creation of this work. 

I can post the cutting of the double panel doors if requested but the same technique of cutting and squaring the doors is used. I will be posting the install later.

Eiji Fuller

 

[Warrior]

This is it. I thought I would share these pics as a finally of the thread.

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here I have both 3-0 doors on my MFT and am ripping them to size. Try that on an mft3!

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A paperthin cut of endgrain. Isn't it perty?

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The double doors as they will look from the outside.

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The single door with operable sidelite.

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3 more interior doors.

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Time to go get the check. ;D

Thank you,

Eiji Fuller

 

[bigbadpig]

Eiji,

Awesome doors, I hope to build something as nice one day.  One question: Did you consider using a series of Dominoes to connect the rails and stiles together instead of using a large mortise and tenon? 

I've built a traditional frame and panel door before, and have to admit if I did it again, I would be tempted to use Dominoes, but wonder how many to use and whether they would be deep enough for such a large door.

David

 

[Warrior]

Eiji,

Awesome doors, I hope to build something as nice one day.  One question: Did you consider using a series of Dominoes to connect the rails and stiles together instead of using a large mortise and tenon? 

I've built a traditional frame and panel door before, and have to admit if I did it again, I would be tempted to use Dominoes, but wonder how many to use and whether they would be deep enough for such a large door.

David

David,

I do use dominoes for doors but not the Festool manufactured dominoes. I make my own to fit the largest and deepest mortise the domi can make. I have a preference for making my own dominoes, they slip right in and the alignment is perfect. I believe that the festool dominos are too tight not allowing enough room for a strong glue joint. IMO that is why the published joint strength tests rated the domino so weak. I mean the dowel joints were stronger, something was definately wrong there.

I used my home made domino tenons to put together all of the rabbetted doors (glass) but did not document the use in this thread. I wanted to test out and document the operation of the OF-HF/1400 in making large mortise and tenon joints but I think my dominoes would have been just fine. and plenty strong enough for these doors. I have built larger doors with dominoes and they have held up great. You have to remember that there are four joints in a single panel door that reinforce each other. And when building a door with more panels there are even more joints in the frame.

In the future I plan to test out a lock mortiser for making the large mortises. Man talk about fast. I will test it with the virutex mortiser because it can be used horizontally and has dust extraction. Anyone want to send me a virutex lock mortiser? ;D

 

[Warrior]

To all,

I just wanted to thank everyone for their support and positive feedback on this thread. And a special thank you to Matthew for the incredible job he has done with the FOG. I feel that this is the best woodworking forum out there and we have Matthew to thank for that. The implementation of the contest was genious!  In the motivation to compete we are driven to come up with, document and share our Festool techniques with the members here. That sharing benefits everyone. From Festool to the clients that hire us. If you are a hobbyist then you are your own client and it is still a win/win ;D.

I said that I felt this is the best woodworkers forum on the net and I mean it. There is an incredible amount of talent here and I am honored to have won this contest.

Eiji Fuller

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Eiji,

After many months I finally got around to reading this thread.  Fantastic job all around - in design, description, photography and completeness!  In my opinion your very complete description of how to make these entry doors with sidelites is deserving of more than one Festool prize.  I have made many small interior cabinet doors with raised panels but never before considered making passage doors.  There are many great write-ups of many great projects using various Festools, but yours tops all that I have read so far.  Thanks for sharing your design ideas, including actual dimensions for various components, methods of work including jigs and stop blocks and various Festool products.  I'm still working in Imperial units most of the time but slowly learning to make use of stops and other methods of transferring needed dimensions rather than measuring and marking because the transfer methods appear to be more accurate and reliable/repeatable.

P.S.  Great sword and even greater sword bearer and sister!!  I hope she has "hers" by now.

Dave R.