ETS EC - Link and questions

[Phil Beckley]

Hi
The ETS-EC 125 can be found here https://www.festool.co.uk/Products/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?pid=574637&name=ETS-EC-125-3-eccentric-sander-ETS-EC-125-3-EQ-Plus-GB

All the power of a brushless motor, great extraction with fantastic ergonomics.
For the film click here

Any questions post here.
rg
Phil

 

[sae]

Any plans to make one with variable speed paddle control to take on Mirka (and/or serve the people who come from using air powered sanders)?

 

[Phil Beckley]

Any plans to make one with variable speed paddle control to take on Mirka (and/or serve the people who come from using air powered sanders)?

Hi
No current plans for paddle version.
rg
Phil

 

[AlexThePalex]

Those are some cool gloves in the video, where can I get them?  [smile]

 

[Phil Beckley]

Those are some cool gloves in the video, where can I get them?  [smile]

Focus on the sander Alex  [smile]
rg
Phil

 

[Holmz]

I thought they had a chip built in to the hand.
Maybe like a sawstop, or some Borg thing?

 

[Kev]

Spidie gloves .. you can sand upside down on the ceiling.

 

[Holmz]

Spidie gloves .. you can sand upside down on the ceiling.

We're already down under...

 

[jonny round boy]

Phil, can you confirm whether this is essentially just the ETS EC 150/3 with a smaller pad? It looks to be, plus the specs are identical.

If so, can the 125 pad be fitted to the 150 machine, and vice-versa? If not, why not? That would seem to be perfectly sensible & logical.

 

[Kev]

Phil, can you confirm whether this is essentially just the ETS EC 150/3 with a smaller pad? It looks to be, plus the specs are identical.

If so, can the 125 pad be fitted to the 150 machine, and vice-versa? If not, why not? That would seem to be perfectly sensible & logical.

It certainly does look any different apart from the pad!

 

[AlexThePalex]

When I look at Ekat, there are some small differences in the bearing assembly right above the pad.

If so, can the 125 pad be fitted to the 150 machine, and vice-versa? If not, why not? That would seem to be perfectly sensible & logical.

Come on, that would be too convenient for us customers.

 

[leftistelf]

Do the new sanders require new sandpaper?

Maybe the holes are different, etc....

 

[Shane Holland]

Do the new sanders require new sandpaper?

Nope, same pads/abrasives we've had for years.  [wink]

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[jonny round boy]

Phil, can you confirm whether this is essentially just the ETS EC 150/3 with a smaller pad? It looks to be, plus the specs are identical.

If so, can the 125 pad be fitted to the 150 machine, and vice-versa? If not, why not? That would seem to be perfectly sensible & logical.

This morning I went to the Festool UK Roadshow, and got a chance to ask a Festool employee about this (didn't get his name).

I asked if you could fit the 150mm pads to the ETS EC 125, and was told 'yes'.

I asked if the machines were identical other than the pad size, and was told 'yes'.

I asked why, if both pad sizes fitted, there were two separate machines instead of just one, and was told 'Because it's Festool' [huh]

I asked if you could therefore fit the 125mm pad on the ETS EC 150, and was told 'no, it's not backwards compatible'! [blink]

I then queried that, and said if both machines are the same, and the pads have the same interface, then how can it be compatible one way but not the other? He then looked a bit confused, and waffled on for a bit without answering the question.

Based on that, I'm not 100% convinced he knew what he was talking about. [member=41214]Phil Beckley[/member] can you confirm?

 

[Kev]

Phil, can you confirm whether this is essentially just the ETS EC 150/3 with a smaller pad? It looks to be, plus the specs are identical.

If so, can the 125 pad be fitted to the 150 machine, and vice-versa? If not, why not? That would seem to be perfectly sensible & logical.

This morning I went to the Festool UK Roadshow, and got a chance to ask a Festool employee about this (didn't get his name).

I asked if you could fit the 150mm pads to the ETS EC 125, and was told 'yes'.

I asked if the machines were identical other than the pad size, and was told 'yes'.

I asked why, if both pad sizes fitted, there were two separate machines instead of just one, and was told 'Because it's Festool' [huh]

I asked if you could therefore fit the 125mm pad on the ETS EC 150, and was told 'no, it's not backwards compatible'! [blink]

I then queried that, and said if both machines are the same, and the pads have the same interface, then how can it be compatible one way but not the other? He then looked a bit confused, and waffled on for a bit without answering the question.

Based on that, I'm not 100% convinced he knew what he was talking about. [member=41214]Phil Beckley[/member] can you confirm?

Hmmm ... having a 125mm pad on a /5 could make for an interesting combo. If it's possible, no doubt we'll see yet another new machine ... the ETS125/5 [blink] [huh]

 

[Scott in Bend Oregon]

Maybe there are different balancing counterweights for each pad diameter.  My old Porter Cable 7336 angle sander can be converted from a 6" to 5" by changing a bolted-on weight. 

If there is counterbalance compensation in the ETS EC, I bet it is built-in to the tool and not easily changed.  Maybe that's what Alex saw in the Ekat with the pad bearing assembly differences.

 

[Brent Shively]

Phil, can you confirm whether this is essentially just the ETS EC 150/3 with a smaller pad? It looks to be, plus the specs are identical.

If so, can the 125 pad be fitted to the 150 machine, and vice-versa? If not, why not? That would seem to be perfectly sensible & logical.

This morning I went to the Festool UK Roadshow, and got a chance to ask a Festool employee about this (didn't get his name).

I asked if you could fit the 150mm pads to the ETS EC 125, and was told 'yes'.

I asked if the machines were identical other than the pad size, and was told 'yes'.

I asked why, if both pad sizes fitted, there were two separate machines instead of just one, and was told 'Because it's Festool' [huh]

I asked if you could therefore fit the 125mm pad on the ETS EC 150, and was told 'no, it's not backwards compatible'! [blink]

I then queried that, and said if both machines are the same, and the pads have the same interface, then how can it be compatible one way but not the other? He then looked a bit confused, and waffled on for a bit without answering the question.

Based on that, I'm not 100% convinced he knew what he was talking about. [member=41214]Phil Beckley[/member] can you confirm?

[member=1725]jonny round boy[/member] ,

I'll see if I can straighten this out for you.

The sanders are not exactly the same.
The shaft on which the pad mounts is different in two ways.
                                1. The 6" is keyed differently and won't accept a 5" pad.
                                2. The length of the shafts  are  different.

The pad of the 6" will fit on the 5" machine, but the length of the shaft for the 5" machine is different as well as the height of the backing plate of the pad itself .  Due to this height difference the pad brake will not engage properly even though the pad brake is the same for each machine.

Brent

 

[jonny round boy]

Thanks Brent,

That's cleared things up brilliantly.  [thumbs up]

 

[oldie]

O/k.  So a 150 pad will fit onto the 125mm sander. 
What would be, if any, downsides to doing that?

Richard (UK)

 

[Brent Shively]

O/k.  So a 150 pad will fit onto the 125mm sander. 
What would be, if any, downsides to doing that?

Richard (UK)

Richard,
The pad break won't engage fully allowing the pad to spin faster than it was designed to.

Brent